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Old 13th September 2008, 21:33   #106
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Old 2nd June 2009, 15:40   #107
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Arka I've pulled 2 plus ton TLC's and Nissan Patrols using the canvas belt I posted. Pulling Gypsies and Jeeps out of slush is like pulling peanuts out. You don't need to waste time doing any calculations!

You obviously have limited exposure Arka, unless you snatch pulling a car out of desert sand is close to impossible. The pulling vehicle simply digs itself in.
Hi all,

Sorry for reviving this long-forgotten thread. It's just that being a newbie, I read through this thread only recently. Soon after that I saw this video, which is very relevant.

For those interested, please have a look at post no #87 in The Off-Road Videos/Links thread. It clearly demonstrates how 'effective' the snatch recovery technique can be.
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Old 31st August 2009, 14:41   #108
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Eight 4x4's working together to pull a 12-ton MAN truck out of the mud. Very cool.



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Old 31st August 2009, 19:22   #109
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[quote=ajitkommini;1458844]Eight 4x4's working together to pull a 12-ton MAN truck out of the mud. Very cool.

Good Team Work Cheer.
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Dear Offroaders,

Whether any of you have ever tried to cross the stream in reverse gear. I had seen this on the way to Leh that these rear wheel drive trucks crosses the stream in reverse.

I am just wondering why they do this? Does it really help in anyways to cross the knee deep water in reverse? Whether same principle is applicable to our 4x4 also.
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Crazy4power,
This could be due to following reasons-
1. To avoid getting water into air filter
2. May be reverse gear is lower than the first hence more torque in reverse
3. more weight on rear wheels for better traction
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I am just wondering why they do this?
Usually its easier to pull than to push. In reverse the rear wheels encounter a upward vector instead of the downward one making it lighter to pull the front wheels

Usually front wheel drive cars have this advantage in snow too
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Thanks DKG & Vinod.

I think you are right. Is it applicable to 4x4 also, whether it will help in anyways? As per my understanding it will not make any differnce as torque is equally distributed in 4 tyres. The only doubt is about weight because it is more always in the front due to engine, as you rightly said that it is easy to pull so that mean if we approach in reverse in 4x4 also it will be helpful to pull the front heavy side easily.
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This discussion is a good one, especially regarding the safety aspects of recovery. This can be a very dangerous affair. A cable snap can be fatal.

I refer you to the attached pic. of the way I did a recovery pull near Kaza last summer. A jacket is being used as a damper on the cable, all humans are standing clear of the wire cable, anchor vehicle has brakes locked, pulled vehicle is in neutral with motor off.

I agree with what has been said about Nylon straps. They do stretch, and can snap back with incredible force. I once was pulling out a stuck jeep with my jeep and the nylon strap which had steel hooks at the ends, slipped off my vehicle. The steel hook shot back with incredible energy, and hit the other vehicle on the windshield, causing it to shatter.

the jeep in front, the blue one, is it a MM540? do you have more pix of that? the hard top looks very nice. I'd appreciate if you can post more pix.

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Thumbs up Great info

going by what has been posted by Arka on "Recovery and Salvage" techniques it seems he is doing his PhD on this subject, great work Arka

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Going slightly OT here:

If you see the part of a pic i attached from the previous post, one of the wire rope is bare and the other is covered with a pipe.

When i was at my electric guy's workshop, he saw my wire rope and said i should cover it with a pipe to prevent inadvertent earthing. However, the wire manufacturer says "NO! Please don't do it, it will accelerate rusting since trapped water will not be able to escape."

Now, who is right and who is wrong. And if both are right, then what to do?
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Smear grease and pack it, keep the rope as much as possible away from water and sprat WD 40 once in a while inside. Best is stick to the tow rope for now and buy the winch soon
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keep the rope as much as possible away from water
That's not gonna happen since, most of the recoveries happen in slush.

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and spray WD 40 once in a while inside.
How much will the WD penetrate? the straw on the nozzle will go in only a few centimeters. and to remove the hose and regrease and re put the hose is not feasable.

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Best is stick to the tow rope for now and buy the winch soon
I already have a tow strap, snatch strap and the wire rope! Winch, maybe later.

And i'm waiting for other bombay boys to get a winch or mine will be the most abused winch of the group!
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That's not gonna happen since, most of the recoveries happen in slush.
i know

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How much will the WD penetrate? the straw on the nozzle will go in only a few centimeters. and to remove the hose and regrease and re put the hose is not feasable.
Just spray it in and rest it will do, thats what its supposed to do.

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I already have a tow strap, snatch strap and the wire rope! Winch, maybe later.
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And i'm waiting for other bombay boys to get a winch or mine will be the most abused winch of the group!
Why dont you guys find a dealer and see if he can give in a good discount for bulk purchase?
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Going slightly OT here:

If you see the part of a pic i attached from the previous post, one of the wire rope is bare and the other is covered with a pipe.

When i was at my electric guy's workshop, he saw my wire rope and said i should cover it with a pipe to prevent inadvertent earthing. However, the wire manufacturer says "NO! Please don't do it, it will accelerate rusting since trapped water will not be able to escape."

Now, who is right and who is wrong. And if both are right, then what to do?
Hi Tejas,

Both are correct. Have you seen the ISW Ropes used in ports and on Ships, they are not covered with a plastic sleeve, to allow for servicing.

Use the Black Grease available at Marine Hardware shops and store the cable in a Gunny Sack.

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