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Old 15th June 2009, 20:58   #91
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The Preparation in on various Levels
1) Individual - Vehicle/Tyres/Lockers/Recovery Gear/Food & Water
2) Terrain - Entry/Exit/Obstacles/Run-Time/byepass
3) Personnel - Skill Level/Driving Order/Recovery Procedure/Contingency

One hand you prefer it not to have "Major Plans" then you talk about the "schedule being thrown off"?

Advanced in INDIA means time SPENT - Not necessarily skill gathered.

If you go by that measure, ONLY Suresh Stephen deserved to be on the Trail.

He has got LSD,NDMS Tyres, Winch, Hi-Lift ,Grey Hair & Common Sense .
Point 1-3 i agree. But i definitely take offence (in a very funny manner) to me being quoted as cribbing @ not sticking to schedule! That was poor me debating with headers, who apparently seems to be confused with my half baked statements, or atleast it seemed like he was

Though i still believe unless the playing field and the players are at the same level, things cant be restricted to A*B = 4x4 calculations. Just for Murphy's sake lets leave it open.

Second part: Sorry i have "seen" better to safely claim that time and/or SPENT alone will not make it to ADVANCE, in India or otherwise! In india especially since access to equipment is very very limited. It is a combination of many things including skills, equipment, energy etc etc So theory not biting for me.

Suresh i understand is the CJ person, who was terrific even otherwise, just coz of his ATTITUDE and energy! I salute you again Suresh!

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HELL you figured all this out in ONE OTR, I thought it was just simple maths.
Oops did i mention that this was my first OTR WITH BLR boys which DOES NOT mean my ONLY OTR!

My humble origins would have hundred+ OTR kms IIRC. One particular stretch (Munnar-Kodai) alone was done 3.5 times, 1/2 coz one was a total wash out with a nice land slide and tree uproots, though we wouldnt call it OTR then.

They were just another visit to friends estates/hills and did i tell you guys i had a Gypsy in my stables once upon a time, which i actually drove on terrains that it is meant for <silly show off! and runs for cover!>

Hey but seriously i am no way competent like others here who participate in "planned OTR's" on almost every other weekend, so just sharing what i felt and some minor observations/common sense mostly.

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Old 16th June 2009, 07:21   #92
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That was poor me debating with headers, who apparently seems to be confused with my half baked statements, or atleast it seemed like he was
Well, I am definitely not confused. I'm also not inclined to turn this around. You deserve tp be a Mod!
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Here are some videos -- courtesy Any Rao Haryali:

















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Hi Khan, they are great videos by Haryali
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Nice videos, just one observation.

Why do guys stand on the jeep especially when it is winched out or trying to come out of an obstacle. IMO it is unsafe and not required.

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More traction? It definitely is unsafe though.
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Dear all - well, that was a good OTR. Congratulations to all.

Dear Shahnawaz - in my opinion, as of today, without a doubt, your Gypsy is the best equipped vehicle in its class to tackle the task at hand. Congratulations Shahnawaz for the wonderful result you have achieved. It shows your true passion.

Dear Vinod Nookala - which is your MM? Are you in any picture?

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More traction? It definitely is unsafe though.
Thats precisely the point. While we assume that more weight gives more traction, it can work the other way around too.

And not 1, even if 10 guys stand on the edge, there is not much of chance in that situation. Only a full locker might help!

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oh man i cant wait, why the hell its not raining here, it seems you guys had blast.
one point i have noticed that most of you vehicles are running stock tyers. only shahnawaz has something for serious offroad...
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Less pics, no wonder since Mr Mjothi was missing on this OTR.

Some similar pics from my archives, Did'nt you guys miss me this time.
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Bengaluru guys,
Just bumped on these videos! You guys had awsome off roading! Great video's. The recovery of CJ340 was dramatic though the gentleman standing in close proximity to the cable was not happening. Overall a great OTR. Would love to join u guys some day.

P.S- Behram sir, iam not anywhere in the pics as this happened near banglore and i reside in chennai :-)))
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Less pics, no wonder since Mr Mjothi was missing on this OTR.
Some similar pics from my archives, Did'nt you guys miss me this time.
Pavan
We definitely missed "Herbie" and its driver!!
Hoping to see you in the next OTR.

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HI sidarth back from ladakh yesterday night, yes we do water crossing in our Next OTR, Finally mahindras given me a new XD3P engine, By thursday Vehicle will be ready,
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