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Old 19th January 2011, 19:28   #61
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Star. IMO the 1 liter Gypsy has a better crawl ratio than a Gypsy KING. I am sure, it can do the trail..

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Star. IMO the 1 liter Gypsy has a better crawl ratio than a Gypsy KING. I am sure, it can do the trail..

Come on Sidd
Vikram, Siddu is going to try this weekend with his 410. lets wait and watch
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cj and mm will not do this but can do the rest
Woah what kinda obstacle is this I wonder if a CJ and MM cant do it!!!!!! Which vehicle can do then, only gypsy 413?

Dwarak sir im backing out, I want my money back with interest

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Woah what kinda obstacle is this I wonder if a CJ and MM cant do it!!!!!! Which vehicle can do then, only gypsy 413?

Dwarak sir im backing out, I want my money back with interest
LOL you got scared?? don't worry. i said my cj and and my MM will not do it and not yours. read my post properly.
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@Star_Aqua

I also think the trail should be tested with vehicles that aren't heavily modified to see if it is traversable. Unlike an OTR with a small group where we can spend a lot of time with an obstacle, when there are 40 other vehicles with many waiting behind the bottleneck things can get pretty frustrating.
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I also think the trail should be tested with vehicles that aren't heavily modified to see if it is traversable. Unlike an OTR with a small group where we can spend a lot of time with an obstacle, when there are 40 other vehicles with many waiting behind the bottleneck things can get pretty frustrating.
Guru, i am inline with you. i am here providing my feedback on the terrain and i am not the one who can decide the trail for this event. The decision makers will definitely think about such issues and will probably come up with the alternatives or what can be done to avoid such issues.
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LOL you got scared?? don't worry. i said my cj and and my MM will not do it and not yours. read my post properly.
Then what, gotta clean up what I couldnt hold on to right now, whaat anna aisaaa kartaaa???

BTW whats so special about your CJ and MM that they cannot do while others can??!!!!!
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BTW whats so special about your CJ and MM that they cannot do while others can??!!!!!
they are running on NDMS.
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they are running on NDMS.
You got a point, i think we should try that climb with NDMS. Maybe airing down would help. Only issue is margin of error is low at that point, hopefully it will clear off once few vehicle pass the stretch.
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they are running on NDMS.
WOAH Im running 7-16 NDMS, Im bowled out middle stump eh???
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WOAH Im running 7-16 NDMS, Im bowled out middle stump eh???
I am not sure about your middle stump. i think your 7 inch NDMS may succeed if you reduce the pressure and follow the instructions carefully
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I am not sure about your middle stump. i think your 7 inch NDMS may succeed if you reduce the pressure and follow the instructions carefully
So you mean we still stand a chance??!!!! Wonderful!! All we MM and CJ guys with NDMS are still recovering from a mild myocardial infarction

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To all the participants,

Let me add my comments (Might be repetitive):

1. The stretch is definitely challenging but doable with all category of vehicles.

2. Its a 100% crawl stretch. Got to be really low on the paddle.

3. Vehicles with lockers and crawl gears will have the best advantage.

4. MT / AT with low pressure is advisable. With NDMS it will be really challenging specially on those heavy boulders.

5. Open top vehicles will be very unsafe, due to heavy bushes and thorn on the way.

6. Sump / Dif guard will be a saviour through out the trail.

As per my drive, there are four major obstacles:

1. Spiedy spot:
Itís a diagonal incline with ruts. Vehicles with LSD/Lockers and Crawl gear can tap the peddle and climb up. Stock and 1Lt Gypsies got to floor little heavy to come up with momentum, as the surface is slippery due lose mud. If the throttle input is heavy, will have high chance of toppling.

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2. Tricky Decline:
We have three exit on this, the middle one is the most challenging one, as we could bust the oil sump and if not handled the vehicle is proper angle, can get toppled.

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3. Diagonal Incline with rut & boulders at the start and end.
If the vehicle is stuck in any of these rut, my advice please don't push further, as it is impossible to get it out. Only option is to winch.

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4. V shaped decline & incline:
This will be cake walk for CJ3B's and overhang cut Gypsies.
We cannot avoid the overhang to get hit while coming down.
Two options to come out, Rock the vehicle and push hard on the peddle or winch.

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Good Luck Guys See you on the trail.

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Old 20th January 2011, 16:26   #74
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Old 20th January 2011, 16:31   #75
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