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Old 18th December 2011, 21:13   #46
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What are the petrol options for a 3b, with emphasis on better fe and reliability.
I am planning on an upgrade from my hurricane
The one and only upgrade from a hurricane is a HURRICANE.

Forget about mileage and isuzu 4zb1 petrol .
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Old 18th December 2011, 21:50   #47
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What are the petrol options for a 3b, with emphasis on better fe and reliability.
I am planning on an upgrade from my hurricane
Hi,
That would be very sad. (My view only)

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What are the petrol options for a 3b, with emphasis on better fe and reliability.
I am planning on an upgrade from my hurricane
Hi Doc,

You may consider a FFE + Weber 32/36Dgev.

But what ever you do the F4-134 is most comfortable between 50-60Kmph.

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Hurricane is hurricane. OK. But I wish to make my jeep a daily drive. So what alternates have i got? HUrricane drinks petrol, tolerable speeds are upto 60. Going the xd3p seems the a way out, but then papers show petrol. So the options that i have is a isuzu.
Any other suggestions?
MPFI Izusu can that be installed? The wiring / ecm ....is it possible/been done?
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Hurricane is hurricane. OK. But I wish to make my jeep a daily drive. So what alternates have i got? HUrricane drinks petrol, tolerable speeds are upto 60. Going the xd3p seems the a way out, but then papers show petrol. So the options that i have is a isuzu.
Any other suggestions?
MPFI Izusu can that be installed? The wiring / ecm ....is it possible/been done?
Hi Doc,

If you have to go diesel you may consider picking up a MM550XD.

Because by changing the Engine & Gearbox, Differential Ratio you will end up re-engineering the whole vehicle.

Also MM550XD offers a better seating and weather protection.

Even if the cost of diesel and petrol is the same the diesel engines will give a much better FE.

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Arka,
I fully agree with you. Also I didn't want to waste the effort I have put in, to get the 3b upto the present perfect state. But I am unable to find a suitable new jeeper for the 3b and as I am unable to use it much, it may just rot. So to keep it up and about this is the last resort I have. I am a normal govt employee so to keep a vehicle just as a collection is not something I can have the luxury of.
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Arka,
I fully agree with you. Also I didn't want to waste the effort I have put in, to get the 3b upto the present perfect state. But I am unable to find a suitable new jeeper for the 3b and as I am unable to use it much, it may just rot. So to keep it up and about this is the last resort I have. I am a normal govt employee so to keep a vehicle just as a collection is not something I can have the luxury of.
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Hi Doc,

1) Convert the Hurricane to XD3P+KMT90 from an Army MM550XD.
Change the Brake to the MM540 type Drum & Tandem MC or Vacuum Booster assist
Roll-Cage & Seat Belts
Winch & Hi-Lift Jack
Store the Hurricane+T90+ Engine Mounts for later.(Please don't scrap them)
What about the Diesel endorsement etc?

3) Pickup an MM550XD rebuild
and wait a till you get a good price for your CJ3B

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docfreak , we had done on isuzu 4zb1 (1.8 petrol amby) engine to a CJ3a. It had the isuzu 5 speed tranny with 4.88 diff ratio.

The mileage is around 10 or max 11km/L. I drove it properly , have the pics too somewhere , with 4.88 there is too much back lash in 1st and 2nd gear , i.e once you rev in 1st cog and leave the throttle , there is a jerk as if you are in 1st low . So had to change the crown to 4.27 .

It cant beat the hurricane . If you want smoothness like the hurricane with more power and economy , i would suggest you consider the isuzu 4FG1 with the 4/5 speed 4wd isuzu tranny .

Its smooth , only second to the petrol hurricane , and while on the highway at 80 or 100km/hr the NVH is better than the hurricane , reason being it has a sync 5 speed GB which is dead silent against he 3 speed .

XD3P+KMT90 is also a bullet proof combo as suggested by Arka. But it will sound a bit loud and crude for the small beauty .
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docfreak , we had done on isuzu 4zb1 (1.8 petrol amby) engine to a CJ3a. It had the isuzu 5 speed tranny with 4.88 diff ratio.

The mileage is around 10 or max 11km/L. I drove it properly , have the pics too somewhere , with 4.88 there is too much back lash in 1st and 2nd gear , i.e once you rev in 1st cog and leave the throttle , there is a jerk as if you are in 1st low . So had to change the crown to 4.27 .

It cant beat the hurricane . If you want smoothness like the hurricane with more power and economy , i would suggest you consider the isuzu 4FG1 with the 4/5 speed 4wd isuzu tranny .
Indeed the 1st and 2nd gears are really really low. But comes handy in offroad. With the 5 speed gearbox it is more than comfortable to cruise at 90-100 all day long. And with the bigger Nikki carb, the power is pretty decent. Quite a few people here changed their opinion about 'lack of torque' and stuffs in the so called 'conti engine' after driving the 440
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Wow, this is an amazing thread, especially for people like me who know nothing.
I am currently rebuilding my MM540 2WD, it has a Peugeot engine 2112cc, does this mean it has the XDP 4.9 engine?
It is currently in the workshop and when we opened the gearbox for overhaul it was a house of horrors, my friend tells me it is best that we change the gearbox, as reparing would cost a bomb.
It currently has a 4speed gearbox, would like to have a 5speed installed as it is going to be my daily drive and at least 60-70% would be on highways and rural roads, we are looking at the BA-10.
Will this be a direct fit?
If not, what modifications or alterations would be required?
What would be the ideal differential ratio in case the above can be done?
Thanks in advance.

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if you are looking for the 2wd BA-10 there is one available in Bangalore.
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if you are looking for the 2wd BA-10 there is one available in Bangalore.
Thanks a lot Prabhu, but I already got a KMT gearbox for my jeep, geez it would have been good to get hold of a 5-speed. But I do know someone who needs a gearbox as well, any idea of the price and other details?
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Thanks a lot Prabhu, but I already got a KMT gearbox for my jeep, geez it would have been good to get hold of a 5-speed. But I do know someone who needs a gearbox as well, any idea of the price and other details?
He is looking for around 20..
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First pic , towards the left is a isuzu 4bd1 engine and towards the right is the dcm toyota 14b .

2nd pic is of a willys hurricane
3rd pic is of a nissan bd30 into the toyota fj 40
4th pic is of a cj2a body bought from phillipinnes. We have one dozen phillipino Jeeps.
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MAHINDRA RANGE OF ENGINES
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MDI 3000 55bhp/16kgm
MDI3200TC 63bhp/18kgm
...
I did some googling around and found these FOUR NON-Turbo (NA) versions too.

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MDI 3000 WT
2523 cc - 55 @ 3000 RPM (DIN70020)
(Whats that DIN?)

MDI3200A Direct Injection Diesel
2523 cc - 58 HP @ 3200 RPM (IS)
(Whats IS)

MDI 3200 L DI Diesel engine 56 hp
??
(Whats L !!)

MDI 3000 engine 50 hp
??

How do I identify the engine - I am looking for the MDI3200A.

I assumed the Marshal came with it, but looks like every vehicle had a different version - Marshal, Pikup, Cabking, Marshal DX - I am at wits end!!

And technically whats different in each of these engines? Just the FIP? Assuming the 2523CC is the same. One chai-time-in-scrap mkt old timer uncle said avoid the DIs with TATA 407 sized FIP - they are noisy and make a racket, the "later" ones came with a slimmer FIP, did he mean the difference between rotary and mechanical FIP? What are those terms too?

Arka, DB, Spikey, Jyobeb, Frankie, Jeep engine gurus - help!
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