Go Back   Team-BHP > Buckle Up > 4x4 & Off-Roading > 4x4 Technical


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10th November 2016, 12:50   #91
Senior - BHPian
 
wanderernomad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chandigarh
Posts: 2,406
Thanked: 806 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpbopanna View Post
Please consider the new MDi turbo (non CRD). The engine is economical and will remain trouble-free for long!
It would be a direct fit and I wont need to change anything else, except the engine and the engine mountings maybe, correct?
wanderernomad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th November 2016, 13:43   #92
BHPian
 
cpbopanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 567
Thanked: 798 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderernomad View Post
It would be a direct fit and I wont need to change anything else, except the engine and the engine mountings maybe, correct?
I am not sure, but it MAY require an adapter plate between the housing and engine!
cpbopanna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th November 2016, 16:03   #93
Senior - BHPian
 
wanderernomad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chandigarh
Posts: 2,406
Thanked: 806 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Just went through the debate over engine swap in the forum and the end result of it seems to be that its better to overhaul and maintain the existing one. I ahve no engine related issues except the smoke at idle which has not gone despite almost 2 years and about 10000 kms. Mech says its probably the FIP issue. Is it possible to get a new or a new old FIP for the XDP now a days?
wanderernomad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th November 2016, 18:06   #94
BHPian
 
cpbopanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 567
Thanked: 798 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderernomad View Post
Just went through the debate over engine swap in the forum and the end result of it seems to be that its better to overhaul and maintain the existing one. I ahve no engine related issues except the smoke at idle which has not gone despite almost 2 years and about 10000 kms. Mech says its probably the FIP issue. Is it possible to get a new or a new old FIP for the XDP now a days?
In that case please carry out a thorough overall and re-calibration of the fuel pump at a Bosch Authorized Service Centre, that should do the trick
cpbopanna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd June 2017, 13:26   #95
BHPian
 
sanjeevkanjoor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Kerala -Trichur (Work--Qatar)
Posts: 132
Thanked: 21 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

I need the experts help for solving the issue that I am having with my 63 Willys Station Wagon with Perkins P4 engine.The jeep has the original petrol model differentilal and it doesn't move smoothly on the road.

As its a 2WD, I need to use it for On Road use only and want it to move freely. Please advise on which differential will be the best for this option.

Thanks in advance
sanjeevkanjoor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd June 2017, 15:46   #96
Distinguished - BHPian
 
4x4addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 4,033
Thanked: 2,668 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjeevkanjoor View Post
Please advise on which differential will be the best for this option.
The original petrol differential was 5.38 as petrol engines are much higher revving engines. If you are going to use tyres upto 31 inches the ideal ratio for you would be 47/11 or 4.27. This is the stock ratio of the Non Turbo Mahindra Pick up.
4x4addict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2017, 03:46   #97
BHPian
 
dileepcm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Bussum
Posts: 93
Thanked: 240 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Hello Gurus,

I believe this thread is the right place for my question.
I have been looking around for a used Mahindra CL 500 MDI for a couple of months now.
I recently came across a 1996 CL 500 MD 4 WD (Its not MDI - see picture attached).
Could anyone help with key differences between CL 500 MD and MDI?
I could find details of CL 500 MDI (My family owns one too, its 2000 make) all over the place, but no luck so far with CL 500 MD.

Thanks a ton!
Dileep.
Attached Thumbnails
Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP-screen-shot-20170925-00.14.55.png  


Last edited by dileepcm : 25th September 2017 at 03:50.
dileepcm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2017, 10:45   #98
BHPian
 
cpbopanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 567
Thanked: 798 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dileepcm View Post
Hello Gurus,

I believe this thread is the right place for my question.
I have been looking around for a used Mahindra CL 500 MDI for a couple of months now.
I recently came across a 1996 CL 500 MD 4 WD (Its not MDI - see picture attached).
Could anyone help with key differences between CL 500 MD and MDI?
I could find details of CL 500 MDI (My family owns one too, its 2000 make) all over the place, but no luck so far with CL 500 MD.

Thanks a ton!
Dileep.
I reckon it has the indirect injection MD-2350 engine of the International Harvestor lineage, as opposed to the direct injection engine that was introduced later!
cpbopanna is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2017, 20:26   #99
BHPian
 
dileepcm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Bussum
Posts: 93
Thanked: 240 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpbopanna View Post
I reckon it has the indirect injection MD-2350 engine of the International Harvestor lineage
Thanks cpbopanna, I was sort of thinking in same direction initially, but at the same time I never thought the CL series had non - DI engines too.
It could be just me.

Anyway, I have asked for further details, hopefully will hear back soon on the true status.

Thanks,
Dileep.
dileepcm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd December 2017, 23:22   #100
BHPian
 
ashwinvardhan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: hyderabad
Posts: 28
Thanked: 3 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein View Post
I will post all the engines , gearboxes, axles and Diff ratios used in JEEPS in India .
Respected sir I am in an awkward situation I have bought a jeep with Isuzu 4JA1 engine (tavera) and Isuzu trooper gearbox plz advice optimal differential ratio if I want to use 33inch tyres

Last edited by Eddy : 4th December 2017 at 17:03. Reason: Quoting a large post hampers readability.
ashwinvardhan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 10:02   #101
BHPian
 
Frankenstein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bangalore/hyderabad
Posts: 351
Thanked: 300 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Which Jeep , if its a short wheelbase go for 9/44 , if 550 the 5.38
Frankenstein is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 4th December 2017, 16:41   #102
Distinguished - BHPian
 
dhanushs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bathery/BLR
Posts: 3,521
Thanked: 4,504 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by ashwinvardhan View Post
Respected sir I am in an awkward situation I have bought a jeep with Isuzu 4JA1 engine (tavera) and Isuzu trooper gearbox plz advice optimal differential ratio if I want to use 33inch tyres
You will need atleast 4.88 ratio. 44/9.

If you consider serious offroading, then 5.38. 43/8
dhanushs is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 5th December 2017, 09:49   #103
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pune
Posts: 664
Thanked: 763 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjeevkanjoor View Post
I need the experts help for solving the issue that I am having with my 63 Willys Station Wagon with Perkins P4 engine.The jeep has the original petrol model differentilal and it doesn't move smoothly on the road.
As a kid I remember that my dad had purchased a Willys Stationwagon in the late 70's, and replaced the Hurricane Petrol with a Perkins P4.
The P4 being a low reving high torque engine used to break the axle, secondly it had enough torque for a top gear start too.
Years later after many axle changes the differential was changed, and the axle failure issue resolved. New issue that crept up was speedo error, only thing I remember was that the distance from our home in Pune to the one in Mumbai which was initially reading as 155 had started reading as 97. This should help you in calculating a suitable change in differntial ratio as compared to original one.

Rahul
Rahul Rao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th December 2017, 15:51   #104
Distinguished - BHPian
 
4x4addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 4,033
Thanked: 2,668 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by dileepcm View Post
Could anyone help with key differences between CL 500 MD and MDI?
Dileep.
Hi Dileep, This is the first DI engine Mahindra made. I have the same Mahindra . It is basically MDI2500 which is a B275 IDI engine converted to DI. It is DI but comes with heater plugs.

When my Dad bought this, I remember the Mechanic telling him that DI engine is no good and he should sell the Jeep immediately . Ofcourse we all know how the DI series engines changed the fortunes for Mahindra.

See this posting by Late Behram Sir to know the history of the Mahindra engines:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-te...ml#post1444767 (Hi-speed and Low-speed jeeps?)
4x4addict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th December 2017, 22:19   #105
BHPian
 
dileepcm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Bussum
Posts: 93
Thanked: 240 Times
Default Re: Engine, Gearbox, Diff ratios, axles options for the JEEP

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4addict View Post
Hi Dileep, This is the first DI engine Mahindra made. I have the same Mahindra . It is basically MDI2500 which is a B275 IDI engine converted to DI. It is DI but comes with heater plugs.

When my Dad bought this, I remember the Mechanic telling him that DI engine is no good and he should sell the Jeep immediately . Ofcourse we all know how the DI series engines changed the fortunes for Mahindra.

See this posting by Late Behram Sir to know the history of the Mahindra engines:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-te...ml#post1444767 (Hi-speed and Low-speed jeeps?)
4x4addict - Thanks a ton! Really appreciate the details, thanks for the link as well.
dileepcm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Indian Diff-Lock for the Dana44 19 & 30 Spline Axles ex670c 4x4 Technical 32 29th October 2016 12:20
57" OKBJ Axles breaking with powerful engine dhanushs 4x4 Technical 12 8th April 2015 13:01
Mahindra Major 4x4 jeep- A/C & Power Steering, Diff. locks, Snorkel amit kumar 4x4 Technical 5 24th December 2009 10:22
Willys Jeep Engine & Gearbox Swap dinya Modifications & Accessories 5 17th November 2005 10:06


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 06:47.

Copyright 2000 - 2018, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks