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Old 23rd May 2011, 07:06   #1
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Question 160 PCD Hub on full floating axle?

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Can a new type of wheel Hub (M&M) having larger PCD of 160 ( typically found on Army NGCS 550, Utility, savari etc ) be fitted on the old type full floating axles ( like 540 front , commander front & rear etc )

For this do I need to change the

1) spindle ( locally called as ' Chillim ' ) or stub etc

2) brake drums & liner plate etc

Want to shift to 160 PCD of my old 540 ( converted to FFRA ) to go for 7.50 X 16 sets of tyres & discs which will be common for my Landy ( 160 PCD ) & Jeep . ( Now 140 )

Any help Appreciated


Sudarshan

P. S. I think many will be interested in this as larger hubs are stronger ones for 4x4 terrain operations

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yes its possible to change the hubs with new 160 PCD.

the new parts are direct fit. (MARSHAL/ARMADA/army550 as these had CKKP axles up front)

but i dont know the exact parts & procedure of the swap.
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I want to know from Bhpians

Can a new type of wheel Hub (M&M) having larger PCD of 160 ( typically found on Army NGCS 550, Utility, savari etc ) be fitted on the old type full floating axles ( like 540 front , commander front & rear etc )

For this do I need to change the

1) spindle ( locally called as ' Chillim ' ) or stub etc

2) brake drums & liner plate etc

Want to shift to 160 PCD of my old 540 ( converted to FFRA ) to go for 7.50 X 16 sets of tyres & discs which will be common for my Landy ( 160 PCD ) & Jeep . ( Now 140 )

Any help Appreciated


Sudarshan

P. S. I think many will be interested in this as larger hubs are stronger ones for 4x4 terrain operations

Hi Sudarshan JEEP,

If you change the PCD to I60, then you will have to change the front Knuckle to Armada 98 or Armada Grand.

The Back spacing for M&M 160 PCD wheel disc is more than their 140 PCD Wheel Discs, and there will be fouling with the Track Link in lock to lock situations .

Older model brake Liners can be used.

The Newer Spindle is heavier/stouter/stronger (IIRC)

Also the Larger Hubs have a different PCD for the Axle Flange (8bolt vs 6bolt)

Regards,

Arka
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the new parts are direct fit.
Are you 100% sure on this ? Anyone has done this before ? Please ask your mech about this ( the old & new parts comparison ) .
Also if he has any old/scrap parts of the 160 ( new type ) hub or anything please bring it for me to be used as samples .

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but i dont know the exact parts & procedure of the swap.
Dont worry , its a matter of time .

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If you change the PCD to I60, then you will have to change the front Knuckle to Armada 98 or Armada Grand.
Explain more , didnt understand / dont know much on this .

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The Back spacing for M&M 160 PCD wheel disc is more than their 140 PCD Wheel Discs, and there will be fouling with the Track Link in lock to lock situations .
What about the Tata discs ? especially the 207 version ? they look much better ( for this job )
Also I have another set of Landy Discs which I think dont go 'Inside' Much

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Older model brake Liners can be used.
what about the brake plate ( Liner plate ) mounting hole PCD is same as old ?

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The Newer Spindle is heavier/stouter/stronger (IIRC)
will be better then

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Also the Larger Hubs have a different PCD for the Axle Flange (8bolt vs 6bolt)
Think this can be managed

All & all I think this conversion will give lesser problems in terms of setting of hub bearings frequently ( when heavy/larger tyres are used )

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