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Old 5th August 2013, 13:29   #16
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Adi,

I feel over lubrication of closed front knuckle may lead to wobbling of the steering.

Am I remotely right Sudershan ji?

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Thanks Sudarshan Bhai.

Any way you can put up pics of the exact locations? Would be great and very helpful for someone like me.

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Thanks Sudarshan Bhai.
Any way you can put up pics of the exact locations? Would be great and very helpful for someone like me.
Easy, sleep under the Jeep

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Can you elaborate why and what are the downsides of over-lubrication?
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Adi,

I feel over lubrication of closed front knuckle may lead to wobbling of the steering.

Am I remotely right Sudershan ji?

Andy
Andyji; Nope sir

Guess why ? Lets wait & see if genesis has something to add

Ok Jokes apart

## Aditya; the diagrams provided by Soymya are great, check them in detail along with vehicle on ramp. They are quite relevant even today.

## AndyJi & Aditya; if you overfill it (the closed knuckle), the grease-oil mixture will find its way around the axle into the front Hub & load & fail hub oil seals & then get in to the brake Drum, you can imagine the results. Been there done that, learned the hard way [ kya kare koi forum nahi tha ]

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For CJ.======

Great material, I almost overlooked it . Thanks for adding .

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Sir, you got them from Bangalore or Hosur?

and where if I may?
I am from hosur and I get them at a shop called Qutbi Hardware (when coming from blore, left side of where hosur flyover starts).

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My Jeep has ,6 steering linkage points + 6 Prop shaft points + 12 points on leaf springs ( shackles & all that ) + a point on the T case shifter rod pin
Can I add a few?

2 points for rear axle (SFRA) bearings, since they are only 1 per side better to lubricate them adequately.

2 points - Cluch pedal and Brake pedal (old floor mount type pedals) Made the pedals a HELL lot smoother!!

2 (not exactly nipples) large holes in front Closed knuckle to check and top up if needed (a big square head bolt that can be opened up with a pipe wrench).

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Any way you can put up pics of the exact locations? Would be great and very helpful for someone like me
As bhai said below - best place is to sleep and crawl on your back to and forth (unless you have access to a ramp), also you get to check and feel the play/wearout of the Star joints yourselves, and also avoid costly yoke/pinion replacements.

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if you overfill it (the closed knuckle), the grease-oil mixture will find its way around the axle into the front Hub & load & fail hub oil seals & then get in to the brake Drum
Isnt the job of the oil seal to avoid this mess. Anyways, a CKBJ is supposed to only house grease right? Not a mixture? I think I had to previlege of opening up a factory sealed CKBJ on my AG after 12 years and I was surprised how less grease the front knuckle had - just enough to cool the star joint, no excess stuff messing around.
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2 points for rear axle (SFRA) bearings, since they are only 1 per side better to lubricate them adequately.
Remember my post on sharath's jeep thread ?(the old one mostly). I have put a scanned pic from the CJ manuals.

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Propeller Shaft Greasing for Off-Roaders-scan0004a.jpg

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2 points - Cluch pedal and Brake pedal (old floor mount type pedals) Made the pedals a HELL lot smoother!!
Oh ya forgot to mention

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== also you get to check and feel the play/wearout of the Star joints yourselves, and also avoid costly yoke/pinion replacements.
More than the costs its a menace if you drop it (severe breakdown case) on the road while running , it happens to have a capacity to topple the Jeep if the wrong end hits & then digs in to the ground . Remember those truckers who put a chain below it to catch the dislocated prop shaft ?

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Isnt the job of the oil seal to avoid this mess. Anyways, a CKBJ is supposed to only house grease right? Not a mixture?
If you need perfection here; you will need No. 1 & No. 0 Universal Joint grease here.

Let me remind you a similar case, why we fill grease oil mixture in the STD RE 350 Gear Box ?? -- originally they have recommend No. 00 grease -- now where do you get that easily ? same with the Jeep its an alternative.

Similarly in old (series) Land Rovers, where there is a similar setup, they have recommended 90 EP oil , but in practicality it surely leaks (sealing not being perfect in old knuckles). Again grease oil mix is to be used.

Sudarshan

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