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Old 24th February 2009, 15:01   #376
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Hi Guys,

Well I bought new alloy's (16"/8") for my BigHorns and they just look awesome.

Here are a few pics.

Cheers !!!!!!
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Old 24th February 2009, 15:25   #377
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The 235 can be pinched into the army rim, but avoid it, as the tyre will suffer uneven wear and may damage the sidewall if run underinflated on sand etc.
So if most your driving is on hard surfaces such as roads the 235's are ok on the stock army rims ?

Will the ballooning effect be similar to that on Pushkins MM550 (Harjeev has posted a picture in this thread) ?

I was planning on putting 235/ 70, R16 (BFG AT) on my MM550. Do aura or neo do any alloys which have the correct PCD for the MM550 ?

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Sorry Guys (Alfa Kilo/Randeep)

I am still confused. I have stock tyres of MRF Sandgrips (7.5X16) / JK Vikrant 7.50X16 on my 550. (attached)
as 275/70/R16 are too big for the rim , I thought 235/70/R16 would fit in.

If you say 235/70/R16 also have to be pinched in then which is perfect size to put on Army Rims?

I have one tyre /wheel guide word file which says 235/70/R16 is equivalent to 7.5X16 .(attached)

I dont want to change the rim so pls help in this.

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Old 24th February 2009, 15:37   #379
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Sorry Guys (Alfa Kilo/Randeep)

I am still confused. I have stock tyres of MRF Sandgrips (7.5X16) / JK Vikrant 7.50X16 on my 550. (attached)
as 275/70/R16 are too big for the rim , I thought 235/70/R16 would fit in.

If you say 235/70/R16 also have to be pinched in then which is perfect size to put on Army Rims?

I have one tyre /wheel guide word file which says 235/70/R16 is equivalent to 7.5X16 .(attached)

I dont want to change the rim so pls help in this.

Tarkesh
Ricky / Bigman,

I just found out from my tyre guy the exact details.
A 235/70/R16 trye requires a rim width of 6" to 8". If one puts the same tyre on an army rim that is 5.5" wide, there would only be a slight balloon effect. This fittment should not be a problem at all.

Therefore my Tyre expert says you can put the same on an army rim.

Bigman : There is no alloy rim available in the market with a PCD of 139.7. If there are any they would be in 15" rims and that too old stock.

Cheers !!!!!!!

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@randeep: You know what, these are some of the best looking wheels I have seen recently. They are totally bling (for me atleast) but have great rockstar looks.

Awesome. Now show pictures of your jeep with these.

Also, what's the PCD & which brand & costs please.
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Thanks Randeep.

I quite like the simple army rims and wanted to keep them. So I will get 235/70 R16 fitted to them.
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@randeep: You know what, these are some of the best looking wheels I have seen recently. They are totally bling (for me atleast) but have great rockstar looks.

Awesome. Now show pictures of your jeep with these.

Also, what's the PCD & which brand & costs please.
So is it gonna be all bling and no p*mp? Jeeps are usually all p*mp and no bling I wonder how brave you are going to be taking those alloys into offroading territory.
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I am still confused. I have stock tyres of MRF Sandgrips (7.5X16) / JK Vikrant 7.50X16 on my 550. (attached)
as 275/70/R16 are too big for the rim , I thought 235/70/R16 would fit in.

If you say 235/70/R16 also have to be pinched in then which is perfect size to put on Army Rims?
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I just found out from my tyre guy the exact details.
A 235/70/R16 trye requires a rim width of 6" to 8". If one puts the same tyre on an army rim that is 5.5" wide, there would only be a slight balloon effect. This fittment should not be a problem at all.
Guys, on Team-BHP we have been using the rim-width calculator since the creation of the forum. I had used it for my Baleno rim purchase in 2005.

Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 2 of 2 (look for ideal rim-width calculator in this page)

According to that a 235mm tyre needs rimwidth between 6.5 to 8 inch. Therefore 6 inch rims will pinch, like it did with my Jeep. In curves, the tyre was twisting too much. Now I have put my 235mm tyres on 7.5 inch rims.

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Bigman : There is no alloy rim available in the market with a PCD of 139.7. If there are any they would be in 15" rims and that too old stock.
Come on, you can easily get 15 inch rims in 139.7mm PCD. I bought myself a set recently.
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According to that a 235mm tyre needs rimwidth between 6.5 to 8 inch. Therefore 6 inch rims will pinch, like it did with my Jeep. In curves, the tyre was twisting too much. Now I have put my 235mm tyres on 7.5 inch rims.

Come on, you can easily get 15 inch rims in 139.7mm PCD. I bought myself a set recently.
Thanks.

What size tyres (that are available in India) do you suggest to make up some of the height reduction in using 15" rims ? What make/model alloys are you using, and roughly howmuch for a set of 5 ?

Are there any 16" available with 139.7mm pcd ?

Thanks in advance.

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1. Army MM550 rims are 139 PCD and 5.5" wide. Since the rims are not that wide, the max you should go is 235/70R16 (see pic below of jeep with standard army rims with Bridgestone 235/70R16 tyres)

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2. In India anything is possible and we dont always follow what the manufacturers recommend. As mentioned earlier on this thread you can fit 275/70R16s on the army rims - but this is not recommended since it creates a balooning effect. See example below of a MM550 with 275/70R16s on army rims.

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3. Since 550/540s are 139 PCD, you cannot find matching 16" alloys/rims that are wider. You have the option of going for 15" alloys or changing the PCD of the jeep hubs to 160 PCD. I am been told by 4x4addict (on t-bhp) that you can get the Bolero 4x4 hubs put on the jeep to make it 160 PCD. See pic below of 4x4addict's jeep with 235/70R16 on Scorpio rims (using bolero hubs).

4. Another tyre size that you can consider is 255/65R16 (Yoko Geolander AT/S).

The Offroad Rims & Tyres Thread-mm540_2002.jpg

Guys - Let me know if any of the above info is not correct. Hope this is helpful is clearing any confusion.
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Come on, you can easily get 15 inch rims in 139.7mm PCD. I bought myself a set recently.
Hi Samurai,

I did not say 15" rims are not available, and the question here was if 16" rims are available in 139.7mm PCD.
I said 16" rims with 139.7 PCD is not available in Delhi/NCR. I have also mentioned 15" rims with 139.7 PCD could be found but have to search a bit.

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So is it gonna be all bling and no p*mp? Jeeps are usually all p*mp and no bling I wonder how brave you are going to be taking those alloys into offroading territory.
Red Liner,

I dont know which part of the world you are living in but the place where I belong we have Jeeps that have "PUMP" and come in "BLING". If I were afraid to take these rims into offroading territory I would have never bought them. Secondly I speciffically wanted M/T's and that too 275/70/R16's so I bought them. If I were afraid i'd have kept the army rims and put MRF/Appollo sand grips on them.

Cheers !!!!!!!

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I said 16" rims with 139.7 PCD is not available in Delhi/NCR. I have also mentioned 15" rims with 139.7 PCD could be found but have to search a bit.
These guys are Delhi based vendors, check with them.

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BTW, what is the PCD of the alloys you just bought?
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Hi Guys,

Well I bought new alloy's (16"/8") for my BigHorns and they just look awesome.

Here are a few pics.

Cheers !!!!!!
Hi randeep,

i just love your rims, what brand are they, how much do they weigh and how much do they cost?

FK
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These guys are Delhi based vendors, check with them.

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BTW, what is the PCD of the alloys you just bought?
One of the vendor's link that you have sent is for HRS, They did have 16" 139.7 PCD but only 6 holes where as the Jeep's rim as 5 holes. The ones I have picked are also HRS.

Apparently I searched all over Karol Bagh, Khan Market, south delhi and also found out if 16" rims in 139.7 PCD are available but I always got the answer as no. They used to come but not any more as all new SUV's come with a 160mm PCD.

My rims too are 160 PCD but i had to anyways get spacers put so I got plates made in 1" thickness. So one side its 139.7PCD and the other is 160 PCD.

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