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Old 11th August 2008, 16:04   #31
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Oh thats real bad news, what happened how did the oil leak? Is it the oil pressure tube?
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Old 13th August 2008, 11:21   #32
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Err - how did you get it ON the truck in the first place?
Well, that's the lucky part. There was small sand hill perfect to the height of the truck. So we pushed the Jeep to the hill and the loaded to the truck.

I know its not clear, I am preparing the report this weekend with full pictures et all. It will make it clear

jaggu: We are inspecting the problem and think we identified it. Will know for sure on Thursday.
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Old 13th August 2008, 23:07   #33
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Good that you reached Chennai safe,Ram.
Sad to hear about the engine. Im sure you read your gauges while driving. Did you have an oil press gauge?
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Old 21st August 2008, 15:16   #34
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Hi all,
Sorry for the big silence, just too many things hit me, Jeep and then got back home and my house owner has raised the rent from 8k to 22K. It took me 2 days to even digest the hike lol.

The crisp update is:
The engine is in for a complete build-up. From crank to piston to everything is in bad shape. The root cause of the problem was the oil tube that runs from the oil sump was constantly rubbed by the front differentials which caused the tube to open-up. This caused the oil to leak and left the engine with no oil which caused the seizure. Will post pics when I get back home..

Now the big decision, do I build up the existing engine spending 30 to 40K or go for a good condition second hand XD3P which will cost me 50 to 60K
Just thinkinggggggggg
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Old 21st August 2008, 15:38   #35
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my house owner has raised the rent from 8k to 22K.
. This beats inflation!!!
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do I build up the existing engine spending 30 to 40K or go for a good condition second hand XD3P which will cost me 50 to 60K
I think a good second hand one will be a better option, provided you find one!
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. This beats inflation!!!
U bet, its 300% man no way even near inflation, but thats how human mind works, when money clouds the brain, logic flies out
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Dear all - that's a damn good looking Jeep but what a silly reason to lose a perfectly healthy engine.

My request - may I use this post to request all to understand the importance of what is most essential in any vehicle - that of VEHICLE PACKAGING. Essentially it means that all team BHPians must make it a subconcious lifetime habit of constantly scanning their vehicles, using their eyes like lasers for any signs of anything that can affect system reliability. Believe me, I know. I do it everyday, day after day on a variety of vehicles. Once you develop it, it's so easy, others wonder how you do it. Sometimes tying things by a piece of pyjama string can enhance reliability to such an extent that it is unbelieveable to think in hindsight that something like this can even be attempted and that it will actually work (e.g.a handbrake cable rubbing the exhaust system is tied to the body, ensuring working clearance for vehicle life, otherwise the cable will burn with disastrous consequences). Think about it, especially as many teanBHPians get into modifications left right and centre and most of the so-called "specialist" garages just do not have system reliability in their radar / mindset.

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Old 21st August 2008, 17:01   #38
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Behram: trust me I learnt the lesson and one more lesson is just trust your instincts than others . Now the saga continues if to build or buy a second hand engine.

Also, since this is a 1998 engine from a Voyager the sump is little diff and is hitting the front differential when we hit a pot hole or bump...so even we work on the engine have to see if I need to replace the sump so it doesnt hit the differentials or may be think of some other way around
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Voyager has the 2.5 litre XD3P engine with a completely different dress level. Please post photographs of your Jeep's engine compartment, underbody and other details. From the registration number, it seems to be an old vehicle but it has suspended brake and clutch pedals which only came on the CL340 classic in 1997. The dash panel is of 1995, so it all seems to be a mix and match product. Be careful on reliability. I will guide you in totality.

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Old 21st August 2008, 17:52   #40
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DB: Thanks a lot. I will post all the pics when I get home...

Just to give an idea:
The Jeep has the following modifications:
1. Complete Voyager unit, Engine, Air filter, Alternator
2. Tata Seira Power Steering unit
3. Disk Brakes for the front
4. Hanging pedals for clutch and brakes and went back to the regular one for accel pedal as the clearance in hanging pedal was not comfortable
5. pro-comp shocks and steering stabilizers
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OK, I await the detailed photographs.

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Old 21st August 2008, 20:30   #42
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Default Pics of the oil sump and rings

Pics of the tube and oil sump which was the culprit:
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Old 21st August 2008, 20:45   #43
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Default Engine Bay

Pics of the engine bay. Its XD3P 1998 Voyager engine and assembly.
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More pics at :Picasa Web Albums - Madbull-Ram - Mahindra Jeep...
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Old 21st August 2008, 20:55   #44
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Default Few Pics of the roadlog

Posting few pics of the road log, will post detailed pics of the adventure with a write up soon:

The triv sendoff gang:from left to right:
Sujith, Sujith's friend, TBhp Red, TbHp J K Das, My drive partner Narren
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Urs Truly
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These 3 pics tells you how we loaded the Jeep on the truck using a small mud mount and with help of locals . All they wanted was a cup of tea for this.I saw the difference between City Folks and Village Folks. Unadulterated life.
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Old 21st August 2008, 21:09   #45
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buddy, thats such a wonderful jeep. a beauty and the color is to my personal liking.

Too bad that it had an engine failure. I really feel sad on seeing the jeep pics.
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