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Old 11th July 2011, 16:11   #286
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I have a 550 with a hard-top, running on 245/75/R16 on steel army rims [heavy]. Looking to soften the suspension for my daily drive - what are some of the recommended options?
CFL / Gas shocks (which ones?) / [any other options]

P.S. has any one experienced the 'jolt' when one hits a concrete road, right after a set of paver blocks - and the difference between the two road patches is about ~2 inches - I'm sure the Mumbai folks know what I'm talking about

I wonder how CFLs behave in this situation?
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Has anyone tried CFL in thar? Any recos
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Has anyone tried CFL in thar? Any recos
Here you go..
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-te...ml#post2564729 (Advice on fitting an air-conditioner in the Mahindra Thar)
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Links to AC fitment not composite fibre leaf spring
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@vnambiar:

Rajith has put CFL in his Thar and is very happy with the performance. There is a picture of the CFL in the same link that starter has posted above. See the pictures posted by Rajith about his AC install and there is a pic of the CFL.
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Rajith has put CFL in his Thar and is very happy with the performance. There is a picture of the CFL in the same link that starter has posted above. See the pictures posted by Rajith about his AC install and there is a pic of the CFL.
I called the company to check the prices and they are quoting 30k for Bolero/Thar/Scorpio CFL Springs. Looks like they have tasted good success and seems they dont have any other competitor in this space.

Has anyone purchased these recently at a better price than 30k? I spoke to Rajith and he had purchased this more than a year back at quite a steal.
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Price of 30K is tooo high.

About Ride quality and handling is just superb.. no words to say, feel it..

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not sure if this is useful, but check this out CFL for Thar | Facebook

I had discussed this with Vijay from swathik and planning to visit him for few of the add ons soon.

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Got it, thanks for the link
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Price of 30K is tooo high.

About Ride quality and handling is just superb.. no words to say, feel it..
Would like to check out vehicle for ride quality, please do Msg me at 9900777844
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on my enquiry, the CFL's for MM540/550/Thar seems to cost around 26,000/- for the rear set. there is no front CFL for MM Jeeps, and front CFL's are available only for the Gypsy's.

Dear Samurai, Rajith, Swastikviji and all MM Jeep CFL users,
1. is the 26k price for the rear (mm540) alone justified ?
2. what are the benefits seen ? in slow speeds, does the jerking/rocking motion in MM Jeeps - reduced ? or absolutely nil ? pls share in detail your user experiences.
3. does the rear CFL really make the rear suspension like air suspensioned ? its too good to believe this, so pls clarify with your personal views.
4. on CFL fitment, what is the shackle type used ? silent block or grease type ?
5. how is the rear behaviour of the MM Jeep with 2 persons and with 4-5 pax ? any difference in the ride height, sagging like leaves etc.,.

Thanks in advance for all your info/tips/guidances.
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Shekarji here it goes..

1. is the 26k price for the rear (mm540) alone justified ?
** It was 18K in 2009.I brought it for 2wd Bol SLX & now using in THAR CRDe.
You plz work out the inflations & pack to 18K.

2. what are the benefits seen ? in slow speeds, does the jerking/rocking motion in MM Jeeps - reduced ? or absolutely nil ? pls share in detail your user experiences.
** Absolutely no jerks/Rocking.If Rear go hi than the OE level, so clutch shuttering observed (Bolero).

3. does the rear CFL really make the rear suspension like air suspensioned ? its too good to believe this, so pls clarify with your personal views.
** Yes sir, im using 2 sets from 2008 in 4wd bol & then 2wd bol.For bol i was not happy due many tech issues.But for THAR CRDe, yes.Its like a Air suspension.

4. on CFL fitment, what is the shackle type used ? silent block or grease type ?
** Shackle is OE,Silent block in Bol SLX & THAR CRDe.

5. how is the rear behaviour of the MM Jeep with 2 persons and with 4-5 pax ? any difference in the ride height, sagging like leaves etc..

** Hieght reduces with load, more than normal steel springs.I rides 99% of the time single or with one more in the front, so doesnt matters me.But CFL is not load freindly due to loads rigid nature.But its a passenger freindly.No sagging.

For THAR its fantastic, For Bolero & Scorp i was not happy, will discuss about this later.

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** Absolutely no jerks/Rocking.If Rear go hi than the OE level, so clutch shuttering observed (Bolero).
Please explain more about the part in bold above.

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But CFL is not load freindly due to loads rigid nature.But its a passenger freindly.No sagging.
Passenger ~~ Load.

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QUOTE=SPIKE ARRESTOR;2573197]Please explain more about the part in bold above.

spike when i fitted the cfl in my 4wd DI Turbo bolero and 2wd SLX bolero,rear height increased by 2.5 inches on both the sides, thus propeller shaft was comming out from the factory posistion and jerk was observed when boleros are in 3/4 clutch in stationary condition.If u load the vehicle, rear goes down to its original posistion ,jerk goes off. So inserted a 1/2 inch plate between the leaf & diff tubes to compensate the height.

Passenger ~~ Load.

Even though numericaly weight of passengers/load are same, flexiblity is there with people when vehicle hits speed breakers or potholes,but the a bag of sand or a rice wont move from its original position.Thus i have got my one set CFL damaged in a single driven bolero carring @ 300kgs of rice bags from native to blr which negotiaed thru bad roads & Ghats . No issues observed when loaded 7 people in total, except in the case of 235 tyres instead of 215, as 235 was scraping the wheel arches.

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^^ That is surprising (7 people ~ 490) as compared to 300 kgs of load, agree with the weight movement but still.

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