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Old 31st January 2010, 23:56   #181
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FYI, for those who do not know. The purpose of a traction bar is to provide additional bracing to the chassis-axle connection so that the axle will will not 'roll up' on the springs, or break them, under the combined effect of heavy torque from the motor and the movement of the axles on rough undulating surfaces. In other words, traction bars help the springs keep the axles moving in the plane they should move in and take the load for doing that off the springs. This preserves the springs and shackles and makes the chassis-axle connection much less prone to breakage.
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Old 5th February 2010, 23:17   #182
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Now need to find good stable leafs for the front as the CFL's are no good for the front. Will now put on the EMU leafs up front and see how it works out.
OMEs are not recommended for a SPOA setup by the manufacturer.

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Old 10th February 2010, 18:24   #183
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Anyone knows a place/person/garage who can fabricate leafs for me like this?

I need them for the front of my Gypsy. So the dimensions are that of front Gypsy leafs (length/width).

This has 4 leafs & if you notice the mounting eyelids are turned different way and first leaf is kind of half....

Am open if this can be done in say Hyderabad/Delhi etc..

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Anyone knows a place/person/garage who can fabricate leafs for me like this?

I need them for the front of my Gypsy. So the dimensions are that of front Gypsy leafs (length/width).

This has 4 leafs & if you notice the mounting eyelids are turned different way and first leaf is kind of half....

Am open if this can be done in say Hyderabad/Delhi etc..

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Well I need a set too - Front & Rear - Any place to get them?
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...Here is how the bilstien's look on the Gypsy. ...
khan_sultan, some pics of the engine bay also, please !

What are those two additional rods welded to the chassis on both sides of the Bilsteins? Looks like the Bilstein's are attached to them at the top, right?
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@ Jaggu: Can you explain the above better ?

I did not follow this either. In simpler words please? You mean the rear jumps more than the front?
What i meant was in a SPOA setup (where the front CFL failure is happening), the stress on the leaf due to higher articulation and lateral stress from the steering is causing the trouble.

Ride is super comfy in front with Bilstein and CFL combo, the shocks are well absorbed and no more metallic crashing sound of the spring/suspension. Rebound is also too sweet!

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khan_sultan, some pics of the engine bay also, please !

What are those two additional rods welded to the chassis on both sides of the Bilsteins? Looks like the Bilstein's are attached to them at the top, right?
Yes they are sort of inverted U clambs, fabricated and attached to the chassis and the shocks are attached on top (this end is inside the engine bay).
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Thumbs up Awesome mod

@Kunwar sahab what an awesome mod, the time and pain you have taken to get this done and that too "first time right" is really appreciated.
OT- Forgot to check your vehicles underbody during the Bangalore OTR, will certainly do it next time.

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OT- Forgot to check your vehicles underbody during the Bangalore OTR, will certainly do it next time.
And Spike, you could check that sitting comfortably on a chair!
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good one starter, i won't miss it next time

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@KS:

Contact Fazalbhai in Hyderbad. He knows a good leaf spring maker who can make a custom leafspring to your specifications.

See pics of a custom leaf spring set up on Fazal's MM540.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...ml#post1632893 (MM540 2WD to MM550 4WD, 5 Speed.Transformed!)
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There is supposed to be another chap in Delhi where all the rally boys get the leafs tampered / replaced, check with one of the Delhi Gypsy owners...
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What is the purpose of the eyelids being inverted? Anything specific?
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@Kunwar sahab what an awesome mod, the time and pain you have taken to get this done and that too "first time right" is really appreciated.
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Looking back, there are few/minor aspects that could have been done better. All that knowledge is now coming in handy to share when swastikviji is doing SPoA on his Gyspy.

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There is supposed to be another chap in Delhi where all the rally boys get the leafs tampered / replaced, check with one of the Delhi Gypsy owners...
Not needed now. As you know, taking a different route now

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What is the purpose of the eyelids being inverted? Anything specific?
This is what the product literature said.

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Reversed Wrapped Eyes allow for more arc without excessive lift, and saves the spring from going into a negative arc to compress.
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Old 26th April 2010, 16:36   #194
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This weekend, got these installed. These fit into the chassis and will allow the vehicle to slide over rocks -- hence called Rock Sliders. One more advantage is that now one can safely put a hi-lift on Gypsy body to lift the vehicle. Earlier it was a bit tough. This will also allow 2-3 people to stand on the side for rocking the vehicle when stuck :-)

For this, the plastic beading on the floor panel needs to be removed along with the hollow tube/channel that is there. Then this needs to be just bolted on to the body/chassis. Couldn't be simpler than that :-)

Gypsy on Steroids -- The SPoA Project.  EDIT: Stage-2 Started now..-vviji5.jpg

Gypsy on Steroids -- The SPoA Project.  EDIT: Stage-2 Started now..-vviji10.jpg

Gypsy on Steroids -- The SPoA Project.  EDIT: Stage-2 Started now..-vviji24.jpg


PS: Thanks to swastikviji who found a good fabricator to get this made as per our design. Without his help, this (+ bumper + t-case guard) would not have been possible
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Old 26th April 2010, 17:13   #195
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Spidy is getting better with age!

Khan, guess with this, either people can stand on it and rock or even better, add few more people and lift it off!

Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh! (Waiting for Godot, it seems!!! :( )
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