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Old 19th June 2009, 16:49   #16
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72 Bullet - While any reading material given is nice, Practical experience is much better.

We all have seen Dwarak Sir talking all members (seniors and newbies) through the trail.
We have also seen Dwarak, StarAqua, Swastikviji and other senior members guide ALL members through the various obstacles.

Its just that most of us are learning about our respective vehicles.

Seniors - Please do organise a training camp, I am sure you will have an overwhelming response from all members

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I have posted an off road instructions manual on this forum where a lot of useful information is available.

This was an Instruction manual given to all my offroad club members and to participants of the Great Escape Desert events.

If any specific queries are there, I will be glad to answer those individually on this forum.

Here's a link to the Instruction Manual.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...ecklist-2.html (Pre-Offroading checklist)

Enjoy reading.

Shahid

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Old 19th June 2009, 19:46   #18
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One of the most wanted initiatives from the gurus of Bangalore Jeepers. I am definitly there as a trainee.

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Bullet, I agree with you. I did my first offroading under the tutelage of Arka in Chennai, and you can't ask for a better teacher.
ABSOLUTELY! i second that! Unfortuantely i didnt have my Gypsy around when i went offroading with them, but in the few hours that i spent with arka andhis group i learnt whatever little i know today. Hats off to him man! he is the true guru!

During Offroadring sessions safety practices must be rigorously implemented and not treated as an optional.

I have seen some jokers standing casually around within a foot of the cable during a winching operation. The cables are not secured with a rubber mat or anything to arrest whiplash. So on and so forth. Its a miracle that nothing drastic has happened so far!

I hope Arka and group come down to this part of the country sometime so we can benefit from their immense experience.

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Dear Sharath,

Well i have noted your requirement will have this picked this time for sure before i land up to your place for a recce,


Dear New & the old Jeepers,

Well safety is very important, no doubt on this, a good point of discussion,

How many have a seat belt, we have gone very far to see that nitin was satnding on the fender,

just to update the some the jeeps which i have inspected before the OTR i have noticed even the battery is not even clamped, what kind of safety are we talking, some dont even have proper brakes, forget all that some don't even have a 4/4,

I am very clear with many if the basics of the jeep is clean & complication are less, the results in a OTR is better,

secondly in a OTR i expect the new jeepers to track the trails by walking, this is a must, most of the jeepers simply fail to understand why this is a required feature,

It is a must the new jeepers should alway monitor the jeeps in action, this will help you in performing better,

The more number of OTR participated you will have better understanding,

I once got hear from a jeeper that in his first jeeping session he was asking from a jeeper ahead of him on how to operate a 4/4, when the convoy was on the move, & now this is the best part the guy ahead of him was also new & this was his first jeeping session, and his reply was just use the small levers up & down it will engage the front wheel & that's it. well are we so shy to mention that i have no idea on how to operate 4/4, the saying s little knowdlege is dangreous,

As mentioned by Suresh i will be available from July onwards will surely be there to help any body,

Dear Ganesh - join us on a OTR & you will get to see what your jeep can do & you will also get to learn how to hanlde the jeep on the trail,


Very important - every jeep should atleast have a tow cable with couple of D shakles of 4 ton capacity & a Load starp if you dont want a tow cable, dont depend on other for the basics,

Till then take care & enjoy,
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Suresh, it is good you started this. Something like this is really needed.

Some suggestions from my side.

1) Develop a syllabus, something like 5 (or 10) things every offroader need to know before going offroad. And they need to practice that with an experienced rider first and then by themselves.
2) Conduct classes once a month, with limited vehicles, say less than 5 vehicles. If you have more people or vehicles in the classroom, students won't get individual attention.
3) Teach safety in offroading. I know this is coming from a wimp who fastens seat belts while offroading, but you get the idea. Many newbies don't know what to do when the vehicle tilts, most turn away from the tilt and risk rolling.
4) Teach basic automotive tech. List out the common problems one can get into while offroading and teach them how to get out of it. Teach them how to inspect the vehicle before and after offroading for signs for trouble. Imagine, (a) I didn't know where to look when I lost the oil hose at 1AM in the middle of the forest in Munnar. (2) On the morning of Munnar MGE, the Innova taxi driver pointed out the shackle nuts that was about to fall off. (3) Recently I was driving around the Jeep for two weeks unknowingly with a broken rear main leaf and was complaining about a tilt. And I have owned the Jeep for more than a year. Is anybody still wondering whether newbies need training?

Although I got a winch, I am unable to get my hands on a front recovery hook or bow shackles. I mean where do you get this stuff? I don't have a D-Shackle or tree saver to use with my snatch block. And that is not because of lack of trying. We need to establish some source to easily get these much essential parts.

Ahem, in the Udupi circuit we have one, that is 50% considering there are only two offroad Jeeps here.
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Old 24th June 2009, 14:09   #21
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Friends,
We will try to organise a basic Offroad training some time next month. Before joining for the next OTR /Training, All the vehicles must have the essential equipments listed in my previous post. Does anybody requires any help in locating the parts?. I can provide the details of the shops which stocks the parts and In case you need any recovery hooks/snatch blocks to be fabricated, I can also assist to getting them fabricated. Please treat this as a necessary pre-requiste for Off roading.
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Old 24th June 2009, 16:14   #22
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Friends,
We will try to organise a basic Offroad training some time next month. Before joining for the next OTR /Training, All the vehicles must have the essential equipments listed in my previous post. Does anybody requires any help in locating the parts?. I can provide the details of the shops which stocks the parts and In case you need any recovery hooks/snatch blocks to be fabricated, I can also assist to getting them fabricated. Please treat this as a necessary pre-requiste for Off roading.
Suresh
Hi Suresh,
Thank you for taking the lead on setting up a Training session. You can count me in on this.

I need help to equip myself with the items you mentioned in your previous post.
1. Fix a hook in the rear and recovery hook in the front: I have hooks in the front, but not the "D" hooks.
2. Recovery cable(10 meters) with eyelet on both sides: I believe this can be bought at Ozone, but is there a better place?
3. Bow shackles 5/8" 4 nos: Where can I buy these?
4. Gloves: I am assuming heavy duty work gloves - not sure where I can buy good ones either.
5. Hilift jack(48") min( absolutely essential): Where can I buy these?
6. Shovel, pick axe: Where can I buy these?

I guess I also need the recovery hooks & snatch blocks. Thanks in advance.
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Hi Guys,

I am in for the off road training. Couple of things I need to clarify:

-I have a gypsy 410 and its got the standard tow hooks in front and back should this be enough.
-I have a recovery cable with the eye hooks so no probs on that.
-What are Bow shackles 5/8" 4 nos: Where can I buy these?Do I need it on my Gypsy
-Is the high liftjack a necessasity.
-Shovel and gloves all ready

Suresh let me know when and where the events gong to take place.
I would love to join uall.

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5. Hilift jack(48") min( absolutely essential)
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-Is the high liftjack a necessasity.
Suresh must be scratching his head now...
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Nice initiative and valuable info from veterans.

@Ganesh, A-jay and others looking for info as to where these stuff can be bought, please have a look at this informative thread:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-v...4x4-india.html

Also mods, kindly move the "Places to buy stuff for Off-Roading/4x4 in India" to the "4x4 Technical section".

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3. Bow shackles 5/8" 4 nos: Where can I buy these?
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What are Bow shackles 5/8" 4 nos: Where can I buy these?Do I need it on my Gypsy
Bow Shackles or D Shackles look like this:

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You may need to get shackle mounting plates attached to your front and rear bumpers. Not really required and there are various purpoes for the shackles.

I had fixed them on my Classic but dont have the pics. so taking one of whitemm540's Jeep.

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Old 28th June 2009, 21:05   #27
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All, I have gone through the offraod thread Santhosh pointed me to and summarized the contact information from there with some corrections and additions. If there are other sources please add them also.

Places to buy stuff for Off-Roading/4x4 in Bangalore

Shop/Place: Adventure Zone (Also popularly called as ozone)
Location: Opposite St Joseph College, Museum Road ( Just by side of the post office)
Address: 15/1, State Bank of India road, Bangalore - 1.
Shop number: 080-41231007
Contact person: Mr Narayan (For off-road equipment)
Mobile: 94480 54535
Website: www.4X4offroad.in

Stuff you get there:
ARB Air Lockers
Old Man EMU Shocks/Leaf Springs
WARN Winches (various capacity)
Hi-Lift Jacks and accessories for the same (website)
Camping Tent/Sleeping Bag
Off-Road Lights (WARN Fog/Driving Lights)
Snorkels
Manual Free Wheeling Hubs (and automatic free wheeling hubs also)

Shop/Place: Stellas Intertraders
Location: 2/13, M M Lane, S J P Road Cross,
City Bangalore Pincode 560002
Phone No 080 - 22224781/41140433

Stuff you get there:
Nylon tow ropes of various sizes & load capacity
Other hardware items like D-Shackles & D-Rings etc. (depends on availability)

Shop/Place: Gujiri (opposite Russel Market)
Stuff you can get there:
Old/Used parts
Jerry Cans for your 4x4's
Any other thing for your 4x4 depending on your luck
Please keep adding to this like OTR Tyres, Wheels, Rims, Axles etc.

Shop/Place: Tranquil Motors Pvt Ltd (Polaris Authorised Dealer)
Location: Railway Parallel Road, Seshadripuram
Address: #64, Railway Parallel Road, Kumarapark West, Bangalore - 560 020
Phone: +91 80 40608700
Cell: 99001 62598
Email: info@tranquilmotors.com

Stuff you can get there:
ARB Air Lockers
Old Man EMU Shocks/Leaf Springs
WARN Winches
Hi-Lift Jacks
Polaris ATVs and accessories for the same
Offroading Helmets, Goggles, Gloves etc

Shop/Place: Lamda Components
Address: B-101, Veerasandra Industrial Estate, Hosur Road, Bangalore 560 100
Phone: 080 7834118
Email:lamdacomponents@vsnl.com
Contact: Mr Arun
Mobile: 93438 70011
Technical contact: Azeez
Mobile: 09343090546
Email: azeez.lamda@gmail.com

Stuff you get there:
Free wheeling hubs (Locking hubs)
Lamda Winches

Shop/Place: Adventure Edge
Indiranagar, Bangalore
Phone: 98451 49783
Email: info@adventure-edge.com
Website:Adventure Edge!, Indias leading outdoor equipment store

Stuff you get there:
Feenix lights
Camping
Offroading

Shop/Place: Wildcraft
All over Bangalore

Stuff you get there:
Outdoor and camping gear

Product: Ramsey Winch
Contact: 9448352441
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Shop/Place: Adventure Edge
Indiranagar, Bangalore
Phone: 98451 49783

Stuff you get there:
Offroading


What is offroading? OR did you do a cut and paste job and miss something?
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What is offroading? OR did you do a cut and paste job and miss something?
OTR is also called off-roading Off-roading - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only thing I am missing is a hyphen between off & roading
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Even Headers (Palar 08 winner) gets to learn something today.

Ganesh, I think Headers was wondering whether offroading can be bought in a shop. May be you should have said offroading supplies.
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