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Old 14th April 2010, 17:50   #151
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Thanks DKG, i think ill have to get myself to do this. My mech somehow doesn't seem too keen on this, he says the new springs are not good quality etc compared to the ones i have

This month is really packed and am not getting time to do anything apart from meetings and excels :((((
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Old 15th April 2010, 20:31   #152
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I havent gone thrugh all replies (short of time). Someone may have suggested it before,
Well here it is see the Jeep (cj etc) has a beauty of its own, it has a lot of part shareing in its range (the cj,fc,540),It is practically a meckano.
So the idea is to put the leaf springs OVER the axceles (Have you seen a FC model ?) Following needs to be taken care of
1) the prop shaft length
2) new leafspring stays (to be weilded on top of existing axcel housings
3) you may need widening of track (you can use the FC axcel housings )
4) flex. brake hose length (bet chassis & axcel housings)
5) finally 7.50 X 16 8ply tyres
there can be other aspects also but I tried to give you a basic idea
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If the diff is considered for GC, tyre is the only choice. If Engine or gear box belly considered for GC it can be done by increasing leaf spring porch height. Care should be taken while welding the porch (alignment )
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Whatever you are adding (leaf or packing), you are adding below the main leaf, which remains the topmost leaf, right?

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yeah thats true. im quite sure no one is adding extra leaves above the main leaf.
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i tried all this out on my jeep. best is to re camber the leaves and put a 3-4 inch longer shackle than the stock one. makes a lot of difference. shifting leaves on top sends the jeep too high and makes it un roadworthy in addition to changing virtually every part from drive shaft, brake hoses, anti roll bar connecting rods et al.
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Very true, I agree to your opinion about leaf spring on top of diff housing. Handling jeep without stabilizer rod on normal roads is hard.
For lengthy shackle care to be taken that, they should be strong enough to take
Twist and hard turning, also porch to be strengthened .
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Adding a leaf to the leaf spring maybe a safer and better option to stiffen the rear suspension, if stiffening is what is required to make the ride better (experts and users of the Endy please correct me if I am wrong).

I have added a leaf pair for the leaf springs of my Scorpio a couple of weeks ago, and this has helped reduce the swaying and excessive jumping. It cost me Rs. 1900/- including labour, at an FNG.

I do not know whether this will affect the warranty, though, if done somewhere other than the ASC.
Is there any increase the ground clearance after adding a new leaf. any changes to body roll?
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^^ Yes, the body roll did go down.

Regarding GC, I think it depends on the camber given to the entire leaf set. More the camber provided to the leaf set, higher the GC.

If increased GC is all that is required, do not add any leaf, just increase the camber, IMO.
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Regarding GC, I think it depends on the camber given to the entire leaf set. More the camber provided to the leaf set, higher the GC.

If increased GC is all that is required, do not add any leaf, just increase the camber, IMO.
The leafs do not affect GC at all. The differential pumpkin stays where it is, no matter how much camber you give. You can give body lift with camber, but no GC improvement.
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The leafs do not affect GC at all. The differential pumpkin stays where it is, no matter how much camber you give. You can give body lift with camber, but no GC improvement.
Oops yes, the differential would stay wherever it is, the body connected to the shackles would be the only thing getting some lift
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The leafs do not affect GC at all. The differential pumpkin stays where it is, no matter how much camber you give. You can give body lift with camber, but no GC improvement.
One can add extra leaf[ves] to the suspension along with re cambering to get a slight increase in GC - but only slight [say around 10-15mm]

Just re camber alone will not increase GC.

Remove the anti-roll bar and re camber to get more articulation out of a gypsy!
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One can add extra leaf[ves] to the suspension along with re cambering to get a slight increase in GC - but only slight [say around 10-15mm]
The diff housing is sitting on the wheels, un-sprung. How is adding the extra leaf going to lift the diff housing?
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unless the SPOA'd I suppose?

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^^^
Axle remains where it is.

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unless the SPOA'd I suppose?

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The axle is still on the same old wheels.
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