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Old 14th August 2009, 10:58   #31
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Engine - Made by M&M (Designed by Peugeot and licensed to M&M)
Gearbox - Who made this? What is KMT?
Transfer case - Who made this? dana, spice, dana-spicer, M&M, BorgWarner?
KMT - Kia Motors Transmission (Kia Motors is now owned by Hyundai Motors), transmission is made by M&M in India under Kia Motors Licence

BA-10, NGT 520 are from Peugeot France and I think made in India by M&M under license may be experts please correct me.

Transfer case - Dana-Spicer and Borgwarner not sure if Mahindra makes them in here as Borgwarner is also used in TATA safari etc.
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The CJ3B Axles had the famous Dana/spicer axles right? Who made the axles on the CJ340? Are they same as the CJ3B ones? Or did M&M make new ones for a diesel engined SWB?

It is not the axle but the differentials - Almost all the SUVs in India uses DANA 44
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trammway Thanks for the info ,atleast now i have a idea
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Just a little input on my side. I heard from UBS once that the 3Bs were manufactured till Mid 90's. I cant remember the exact year he was mentioning, I think it was 95.

About the thread, guys please enumerate the differences between CJ3B and its diesel counterpart. By far I have only been able to make out that there was a difference in Diff ratio of both the models and the diesels had swing away type rear door.

What about the front Diffs, Gear Box/ Trans case?
Was the shape of fenders(from Flat to Bent down ones) from the begining itself?
What about the Dash and instrumentation layout? etc etc.

Information like this would be very educative for Novices like me.
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KMT - Kia Motors Transmission (Kia Motors is now owned by Hyundai Motors), transmission is made by M&M in India under Kia Motors Licence

BA-10, NGT 520 are from Peugeot France and I think made in India by M&M under license may be experts please correct me.

Transfer case - Dana-Spicer and Borgwarner not sure if Mahindra makes them in here as Borgwarner is also used in TATA safari etc.

Borgwarner transfer case are made by a company called Digvi Warner based in pune they supply transfer cases to Mahindra and Tata.
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Borgwarner transfer case are made by a company called Digvi Warner based in pune they supply transfer cases to Mahindra and Tata.
Hey, Thanks for the information. I learnt it from you now...
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can anybody tell me what are the full forms or meanings of these found in both the jeeps-(the one's in bold)

Mahindra CJ3B ( 3spd T90 gearbox with T18 2 lever transfer case)

Mahindra CJ340 (Peugeot XDP 4.90 2112cc 4 Cylinder 4spd KMT90 gearbox with T18 2 lever transfer case)

also the notations of DP, XD3P, XD
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can anybody tell me what are the full forms or meanings of these found in both the jeeps-(the one's in bold)

Mahindra CJ3B ( 3spd T90 gearbox with T18 2 lever transfer case)

Mahindra CJ340 (Peugeot XDP 4.90 2112cc 4 Cylinder 4spd KMT90 gearbox with T18 2 lever transfer case)

also the notations of DP, XD3P, XD

Borg-Warner T-90 - T-90 is gearbox model from Borg-Warner

T18 is Dana Spicer Model 18 Transfer Case

DP - This is post fixed to the Mahindra Vehicle names(models such as mm540dp, cl340dp) that came with Peugeot XDP 4.90 2112CC engine. France car maker Peugeot is the company which owns patents for XDP 4.90 engine and Mahindra Licensed to produce the engines for his vehicle.

KMT90 - Kia Motors Transmission model 90

XD3P - An Engine model produced by rance car maker Peugeot and Mahindra Licensed to produce the engines for his vehicle. XD3P is 2.5L diesel engine and new CRDe scorpio engines are based on XD3P if I'm not wrong.

XD - This is post fixed to the Mahindra Vehicle name(models such as mm550xd, mm540xd) that came with Peugeot XD3P 2456CC engine. France car maker Peugeot is the company which owns patents for XDP 4.90 engine and Mahindra Licensed to produce the engines for his vehicle.

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thanks trammway, it's all clear to me now.
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A query- Is the Steering Column, Pinion and Rack assembly common for all M&M SWB?
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In 1967 Mahindra stretched the CJ3B by 10 inches making a "91" Wheel base JEEP. It was powered by the F4-134 Hurricane engine.

In 1974, Mahindra introduced the B275 International Harvester Co. Tractor engine on the CJ4A and called it the CJ500D.

By 1986, Mahindra designed the MM540 series which were essentially a CJ5 with Peugeot XDP 4.90 engine.

In 1999, Mahindra introduced the MDI3200 (B575) engine on the CJ500D and called it the CL500 & CL550.

In 2004 the MDI 3200TC was introduced on the CL550 which we know as the Mahindra MAJOR. This JEEP is still in production.

Now you can connect the missing links of CJ / CL 340 and Classic on this data.
Highly useful , there is a lot of confusion when it comes to used Mahindra Jeeps, I recently came across what the seller claimed 2000 CL550 with original xdp 4.90 engine.
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M&M r&d also came out with a 101 inch jeep with a Perkin P4
engine which was too front heavy and the rear end would slide out
if you took a fast turn (50 kms). it was an extra long jeep body fitted
on FC pickup chassis which was not a success and was ultimately
phased out.i dont think there would be any jeep surviving today.
this was around 1982.
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Mahindra's de-facto strategy seems to be 'iskee topi uske sar' - take a bunch of hats and keep moving them around heads - all under the name of innovation - and they are doing the same till date across all models !

I know this thread is for discussing SWB models from the Mahindra stable - but will post this in hopes of a response -

Anyone zeroed in on the history of the MM5xx models ? They look like CJ-5s, but they aren't - telling features - the chassis length, the front headlamp grille curves among a few.

Somewhere I remember reading this car 'die' came from Korea - from a Ssangyong Korando - and that they licensed the Jeep logo for a number of years.. would appreciate someone to confirm -
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