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Old 1st March 2011, 10:33   #76
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Finally time has come to replace the battery for DwArF. If i go powerzone way i might be able to save around 1000 odd bucks, then again dealer is far from where i am. Though someone has already shared the contact details.

I called up my usual Amaron guy, who does home delivery. He confirmed that Harvest comes in 74 AH and 88 AH, since its a petrol jeep i think 74AH is more than enough. He has quoted Rs 5300 for the new battery, old battery he will check in person and quote the price.

I should be having the new battery with me by tomorrow.
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Old 1st March 2011, 11:58   #77
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=== i might be able to save around 1000 odd bucks===
You haven't asked my opinion but, SIRJI & ALL please don't go that way You can save on whatever ( food ,movies etc ) but please don't do it with the battery ,

money invested in good battery comes in handy at critical situations ( not talking about winch )


BTW Update from me : have put two batteries in parallel connections ( Ac Delco marine deep cycle 95 Ah ) have a look here

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-te...ch-test-3.html (A Winch Test)

(post #34 )

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Old 1st March 2011, 22:02   #78
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You haven't asked my opinion but, SIRJI & ALL please don't go that way You can save on whatever ( food ,movies etc ) but please don't do it with the battery ,

money invested in good battery comes in handy at critical situations ( not talking about winch )
Why the sir and ji baggage for me? Please call me Jaggu.

And i completely agree with you and prefer and will be going the Amaron way instead of the minor saving.
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Old 2nd March 2011, 18:25   #79
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Picked up the Standard Furukawa Black Panther 80-R for 3400 with exchange of the old battery (locally assembled and a residual from when I purchased it).

Well the questions are coming after the purchase but 80 AH should suffice right? I don't have any electric gizmos running on the Jeep (obviously!). Just the usual lights and vacuum booster brakes.

This comes with a 1-yr replacement warranty. Should probably suffice for any manufacturing defects but probably not for systemic defects induced by the electricals of the Jeep.

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@ AVR ,I see no apparent problem here , this should do ,

But in any case don't leave the battery in its compartment 'Unclamped ' means secure it with a bracket , half the time the battery is wasted because its not secured . Also always remove the battery negative terminal if the vehicle is kept unattended & for periods over 15 days. This reduces risk ( yes short-circuit ,if rats chew the wiring ) & will prolong self discharging. ( a disconnect switch on negative terminal is a good idea)

BTW I think we need some one who really knows batteries , my knowledge here is based on experience & common sense & some 'wikipedia'

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Ok deed done, Amaron Harvest 75 amp for 5050 INR after exchange, home delivered with bill and 24 months warranty, 18 month replacement and remaining pro-rated stuff.

I could have bargained a little further, but did not have the time or patience. Atleast i saved the effort and fuel bill for hunting around the town.
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@ AVR ,I see no apparent problem here , this should do ,

But in any case don't leave the battery in its compartment 'Unclamped ' means secure it with a bracket , half the time the battery is wasted because its not secured .
Thanks Sudarshan, Yes there's a good metal clamp keeping the battery in its place so hopefully should do good and its a pretty snug fit. I liked the idea earlier in the thread talking about a rubber mat or something to cushion the battery. Should help.

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Ok deed done, Amaron Harvest 75 amp for 5050 INR after exchange, home delivered with bill and 24 months warranty, 18 month replacement and remaining pro-rated stuff.
When I was picking the Black Panther up I noticed it was significantly cheaper at 3400 than the others which are typically in the 5000 range. I wonder why. It's 80 Amp and has a 12 month warranty/guarantee so time will tell I guess.
Electrical stuff like batteries safely fall under the "Chale to shaam tak, warna Chand tak" guarantee i.e. If its faulty it shows up in the first day else it almost always works for more or less the prescribed life cycle.

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else it almost always works for more or less the prescribed life cycle.
This is where 'we' are in dark , & this worries me most .

What is the life cycle of an 'X' ( given ) battery ? Nobody tells you that .

Do we have experts here ?


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From my experience, i think the warranty is given with ample buffer for a normal life cycle. Say the harvest if they are giving 18 months, then under normal usage/life cycle it would last so long without an issue. Then on its a gamble, how long it will last is based on how well you treat the battery.

But as a min life span 18-24 months is normal these days, if it is a reputed brand offering decent warranty.
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Then on its a gamble, how long it will last is based on how well you treat the battery.
Jaggu,

How would you define good treatment?
1) Well packed and clamped battery stand
2) Disconnect when not in use for long (Important for a Jeep because its not always the primary vehicles so at times a week - 10 days of inactivity is possible
3) Check the water in the battery

What else?
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P.S. In the absence of any experts a confident and logical opinion may also suffice as expertise
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^^^
Add this,

1) check alternator for proper ( required ) voltage , see if its not overcharging & rectify the fault .

2) check the corroded terminals for contact & any looseness .

3) Not cranking continuously ( sply. when starting trouble occurs ) say more than 5/7 seconds at a time .

4) using more load ( amps ) then the alternator provides for charging . IMHO if your alternator gives you 35 amps max ,so limit your total use to 30 amps = to 360 watts in 12 v dc . ( unless its a deep cycle battery )

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Broadly classified into:

-Properly matched rating for a vehicle.
-Proper mounting.
-Perfect charging and electrical circuit.
-Electrolyte check every 3 months.

Which will include all of the above mentioned by Sudarshan & AVR
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i need a battery for my armada.

here are some shortlisted ones.

amaron harvest (90 Ah - TRA 600 H29R/L)
Amara Raja - Automotive - Harvest
Base Magik (M70+ 85Ah) (suggested by arka)
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SF Sonic Turbo (95D31R 80Ah)
www.sfsonicpower.com
there is also a black panther (exide) but no web link for it.

so please suggest a good one for XDP4.90.


rgds'
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^^ Whichever you choose, Just a reference point - I purchased a Harverst 90Ah for 5200 a week back. What is the price quoted to you?
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^^ Whichever you choose, Just a reference point - I purchased a Harverst 90Ah for 5200 a week back. What is the price quoted to you?
i dont have prices yet.

but will get the prices today or on Monday.

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