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Old 24th February 2010, 15:31   #1
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I am starting this thread to share with everyone my experiences with Gypsy tyres.

1. Started with 215/75 R15 HT (not AT)

I had these tyres for many years and the grip and handling was very good on road. It absorbed bumps better than F78 and the braking was pretty good too (mind you my Gypsy King did not come with booster brakes).

In 2008 I was introducted to the world of off-roading. I was a newbie and loving it. The most frustating part was that I used to loose traction on the slightest of challenging terrain - be it mildly sandy inclines, loose gravel, slick cemented incline (wet), etc. Sometimes just engaging 4H got me through and sometimes even 4L did not help. It was embarrasing sometimes to engage 4H where others were happy in 2wd.

Here is a pic of my Gyspy with HT 215 tyres.
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Old 24th February 2010, 16:03   #2
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Goslow,

By the look of the tyres of your gypsy, I can say they are worn out atleast 60 -70 %. If they were average age, you could have done better on offroading. However, proper all terrain tyres will surely help you better.

I had bridgestone HT for almost 5 years and for most offroading. I got issues when they were 70 % worn out. Plus the weight of vehicle plays major role in traction.

Probably it's time for changeover to good all terrain tyre. I would suggest yokohoma AT/S for offroading and highway.
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Goslow,

I had bridgestone HT for almost 5 years and for most offroading. I got issues when they were 70 % worn out. Plus the weight of vehicle plays major role in traction.
Bridge stone HT tyres are good off road except for slush. even there you can get away with your driving skill in most cases. The only problem is that they dont look aggressive like other AT tyres.

Iam happy with my BS HT tyres and has seen some tough off roading till now. Will change to At tyres soon.

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Please post the pic of your Gypsy with new set of tyres
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Old 24th February 2010, 16:26   #4
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In my opinion , bridgestone dueller HT are worse than my MRF zigmas for off roading.
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Old 24th February 2010, 17:00   #5
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Since my expereciences off-road I started searching for better off-road tyres. The only problem was that I was not sure wether to go for All Terrain or Mud Terrain tyres.

In the meantime my good friend Arjun (owner of the ZUK) bought a brand new gypsy and had moved on from the orignal fittment of the F78 tyres. He offered those tyres to me free of cost!!

So now for the next tyre:

2. MRF F78 - orignal factory fitment on gypsy

These tyres had some good points and some bad points -

Good Points
  • Steering became lighter
  • The vehicle felt quicker
  • Traction off road was miles ahead
Bad Points
  • Braking was worse
  • On-road grip was poor
  • Horribly bumpy ride
  • Prone to puncture
I did not mind most of the bad points as long as I was getting good grip off road. In mud and slush these tyres were superb!! I absolutely loved it. I could drive through thick mud which I would not even have dreamt of with the HT tyres. Although on wet steep slippery inclines, I again got no grip. There are some distadvantages of having such a light vehicle!

Then came the killing point. PUNCTURES. Our trails have a lot of thorny bushes and hence I was left with 14 punctures in one tyre and 6 in another. After every OTR the tyres would go down randomly as the thorns worked their way through the nylon rubber due to daily use (it was winters after all).

Mind you, I did not care if these looked puny on the vehicle. As long as the off-road performance is good, but alas, I decided to start looking again.
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In my opinion , bridgestone dueller HT are worse than my MRF zigmas for off roading.
no comments on BS-HT but for sure JK Zigma's are the worst tyres for off-roading.
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Here are some action pics of the F78:
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Since I use my Gypsy mainly for off-roading I was okay with getting Mud Terrain tyres as my highway driving in close to Nil. The only two times that we went for an OTR to Chandigarh and Hisar, were the highway stints in a trail of 10 to 15 jeeps all of which cruize at about 70kmph. So I didnt mind MTs. Also I used my Gypsy to go to office in winter which is about 5kms away on mostly empty roads so no issues there either.

Now I have been searching for non-directional MT tyres since November 2009. I was quite keen on sticking to the 215/75 R15 size but could not find any MT pattern in this size. Finally I settled for the GT Savero Mud Terrain Tyres size 235/75 R15.

http://www.globaltraco.com/product_d...18&subcatid=61

These tyres are a copy of TOYO open country and I read some good reviews on Australian off-road forums.

Here is a pic of the tread pattern and my Gypsy with the new shoes!
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F 78 MRF tyres have been rated well for off road even by BS motoring auto magazine years back!

Your new tyres look fantastic! How much? 16 inch available?
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no comments on BS-HT but for sure JK Zigma's are the worst tyres for off-roading.
BS-HT is the BEST for AT minus Slush. and JK Zigmas are the worst tyres i have seen on one HT gypsy which needs a runway to take off over an obstacle.
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Hey goslow ..
please do share the cost of the tyres.
Cheers
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... Finally I settled for the GT Savero Mud Terrain Tyres size 235/75 R15.
Nice tyres there. I think good VFM. What all sizes does the dealer have and can you share the contact details?

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Black gypsy , black rims and nice looking MT's . looks awesome . Sir your gypsy looks too good , Sir please do share the cost of the tyres and where you got if from. Cheers
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BS-HT is the BEST for AT minus Slush. and JK Zigmas are the worst tyres i have seen on one HT gypsy which needs a runway to take off over an obstacle.
Vjay/Siddhu,

Most of my OTRs have been on BS H/T. It performed every where, including slush in coorg 2007.
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Thanks Gypsy Boy, Shanawaz, Karizma for your comments.

The tyres were purchased from South Delhi Tyres in Green Park area of South Delhi. I can PM you the contact details if you message me. Arjun had bought his 35" MTs for the ZUK and Randeep his 275/70 R16 MT from this same place.

Now for the experiences at the time of fittment -

The tyres were first put on the OE rims and the fitted these easily. When I test drove the vehicle they were scraping the leaf springs on full lock. Now I had 2 options
  • Fit spacers
  • Get negetive offset alloys
Since I was not sure if the problem would be solved even by putting spacers I went for 260 negetive offset alloys. And as my luck would have it there was no choice and I ended up with shiny 3 spoke alloys. I did not like them at first but I think now they are growing on me.

The tyres were Rs.4,800 each! Which I think is a very good price. The alloys were Rs.16,500 for a set of 5.

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