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View Poll Results: Where should I mount the lights?
Option 1 - Between the headlights 71 47.33%
Option 2 - on the sides 3 2.00%
Option 3 - on the roll bar 10 6.67%
Option 4 - on the windshield 9 6.00%
Option 5 - on the bull bar 38 25.33%
OPtion 6 - retain existing ones & add D shackles in the front 11 7.33%
Option 7 - none. upgrade existing lights 6 4.00%
Option 8 - Other. Please specify 2 1.33%
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Old 8th June 2015, 18:17   #166
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Hella 700ff + KC 3"C3 + Rigid Industries E2 10" - Driving

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Hella 700ff + KC 3"C3 + Rigid Industries E2 10" - Driving

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How much do the Rigid E2 10" cost in India? And what's the wattage?
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Old 9th June 2015, 10:41   #168
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How much do the Rigid E2 10" cost in India?
A friend got it in US for $470 from Amazon. I paid the equivalent amount to him in INR.

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And what's the wattage?
75 watts. More details here. They also come with Lifetime Warranty.
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Guys,
I Came across a off road lights Wireless Controlled Off-Road Lights: W700-HID

Found them in Website http://4x4offroad.in/lights1.htm

It costs around Rs.37500

Anyone tried these? How is the performance?
Are these Value for Money?
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Old 14th June 2015, 03:14   #170
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Here's link to my post in led lights. A concentrated spot at 250 mts. 8 leds with aspheric lens each. Another year or two should bring these at par with halogen and hids in terms or performance to cost parity.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifications-accessories/146205-led-headlamp-bulbs-here-end-hid-post3672783.html
Also all the offroad lighting brands using halogens there is a inherent flaw which works in the lights favour. Inefficient hotspotting gives you a tempered beam the cutoff seems to disappear after 30 to 50 mts. In good led's its a 50 -50 partnership between led and reflector. The hotspot is more efficiently managed in led's. The aspherics that i have manages to push the light further with a defined cutoff and 1 % spill. See baja designs squadron or rigid 's hyperspots.
The key here is "the LED beams - specially for spot beams are currently inferior to HID's and halogens". The technology is just not mature yet. There is already CREE's being used in driving lights, which are supposed to replace LED's.

HID's are the preferred choice of long distance and spread lighting for a reason - just that the technology is mature and can cope with inferior reflector designs.
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Anyone tried these? How is the performance?
Are these Value for Money?
Which vehicle you want to use in? why you need remote controlled lights ?
It may not be value for money to someone who would use it as fixed lights and fiddle with remote once in a while but it is value for money to someone who use it extensively for night offroading, spotting, Jungle expedition trips for animal spotting etc....

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Which vehicle you want to use in? why you need remote controlled lights ?
It may not be value for money to someone who would use it as fixed lights and fiddle with remote once in a while but it is value for money to someone who use it extensively for night offroading, spotting, Jungle expedition trips for animal spotting etc....

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I want to use it for XUV, "wireless" is the point which caught my interest for these, as i don't want to cut/add any switch on the Dashboard and less wiring.
Even warranty is also one concern.
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My set of 100W HID 9inch LightForce style OEM lights. I am amazed by the spot throw of these - get at least 1000 meters (1Km) of throw when tested near our farm.

Guess the spacing and size is perfect for large cars.

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My set of 100W HID 9inch LightForce style OEM lights. I am amazed by the spot throw of these - get at least 1000 meters (1Km) of throw when tested near our farm.

Guess the spacing and size is perfect for large cars.
Wow! They are so HUGE! How much did the set cost you?

Can you please post an another pic taken in the night?
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Wow! They are so HUGE! How much did the set cost you?

Can you please post an another pic taken in the night?
I think it is just perfect. It looks a bit large in the photographs.

The car is at our farm and Will post some pics when I visit the farm next time. The set with the external HID's and a set of clear lens cover set me back by Rs.24,000 (I imported these from a friend in Aus). Installation and brackets were another 5K.
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Mods: Also posted in another thread - Aux Lamps. Feel free to link if it is deemed double post.

Pic 1 - Dark no Lights
Pic 2 - High Beam Stock
Pic 3 - Not in Focus Spots
Pic 4 - Spots focused to ensure it does not blind other people. Zoom to see the volume (Luminosity) of the light. That can be focused to go much much more farther away.

Driving mode in Dark is Pic 4 - so that it ensures ample lighting but not to blind other people. I will post another pic of how far the light can travel when I get the chance to project it on a deserted road. The Driving Mode 4 is not for use in City but while driving in village and country roads.

It is a bit sad to note that stock high beam has quite a bit of scatter in comparison with these spots. This is evident when you can see the building to the left of the picture in Pic 2, but these are not seen while spots are on. This scatter is what causes glare onto oncoming traffic.

PS: I have had these lights for about 2 years now.
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Pic 4 - Spots focused to ensure it does not blind other people. Zoom to see the volume (Luminosity) of the light. That can be focused to go much much more farther away.
At what distance have you focussed the lights ?
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At what distance have you focussed the lights ?
Guess approx 100 meters is ample for City driving. Usually the lighting poles are around 25-30 m apart, so in the picture the light throw is beyond 3.5 poles (from source) = Approx 100 meters. Note that a lot of light (Lumens) is being wasted/thrown onto the road.

During highway driving, a throw more than 400 meters is more than enough to ensure sufficient braking distance. As I mentioned, I have had the throw reach upto 1 km (albeit the luminosity at tail end will not be that great).
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You dont need bullbar to mount the lights. You can get the light bar designed ( i got it designed at small town) and give it support through number plate mountings.
refer below pic of a bar i got done in my Safari few years back.

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Hello Shubhendra and All,

How affective are the roof mounted light bar on your Safari? I am looking for one for my Safari as well.
Are yours, normal bulbs or HID's in roof top?

Has anyone came across any auxilary light that has dual beams same as Car's headlights? I know it is too much to ask..

Thanks,
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A friend got it in US for $470 from Amazon. I paid the equivalent amount to him in INR.
Sorry for quoting from old post.
Have you paid any customs duty for this?

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How much do the Rigid E2 10" cost in India? And what's the wattage?
Have you brought this eSeries or something else?

I checked with authorised dealer in Bangalore, he is quoting around 37K.
http://www.everything4wd.in/

In Amazon US it cost around 20k.
Ebay.com ships to India but charges for shipment which comes for around 28K
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