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Old 27th April 2010, 19:38   #16
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Electronics sure seems to have made man's life easy!
Only thing is, the electronics should stay reliable

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Very nice thread, the pics and especially the videos have come out very well. Team Bhp does it again, the very professional way.
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Hope the same happens with all the latest innovations, not just offraod capabilities, and the watering down takes much lesser lime than before.
Well, the Jeep Wrangler already has off-road spec traction control, ABS and LSD. It also has a similar hill start assist function. I can tell you that the Wrangler is amongst the best hard-core offroaders available today.

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Nice; they should have also included the same video/circus when its a wet track IMHO.
See the tanker behind the C & E Class? They did have a wet track simulation, but for a demo of the safety features. Thread should be coming up soon.

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Any pics / videos of the suspension in its fully raised state? 307 mm GC sounds like one can drive a Nano under it...
What we have is already posted on the thread
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Old 27th April 2010, 20:26   #17
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40 degree climb and descend is mighty impressive considering the heft of the car. Nice report as always.
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GTO any idea regarding the height of the obstacles? I mean height of the obstacle (boulder simulation) from the ground.
Probably 13 - 14" in height.

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Old 27th April 2010, 21:45   #19
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The 30 degree side approach is very interesting. Can it be done in a Mahindra 540? What precautions need to be taken?


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Nice; they should have also included the same video/circus when its a wet track IMHO. Have seem similar video done by Fortuner and that was better.
@JK Can you post a link to this video?

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Old 28th April 2010, 10:24   #20
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40 degree climb and descend is mighty impressive considering the heft of the car.
And she did it without breaking into a sweat. Felt totally effortless.

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The 30 degree side approach is very interesting. Can it be done in a Mahindra 540? What precautions need to be taken?
I'm pretty sure I've done a 30 degree lateral in my Classic. This was on the "Temple Hill" climb at Deolali (Nasik'ites will be well aware of the place). Of course, at one point, there were two people standing on the RHS to keep her from tipping over, but that's besides the point. NOT recommended.

Guys with raised 4x4s (SPOA etc.) won't be able to.
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Exactly my point, I would have thought that at 30 degree side approach, when all 4 wheels were on the wooden (makeshift mount), the Merc would topple. Makes me feel uneasy just looking at the pic, how was the feeling sitting inside?

OT: what was the fluid dripping from the bottom (seen from the camera's placed between the obstacles)?
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OT: what was the fluid dripping from the bottom (seen from the camera's placed between the obstacles)?
OT-That is condensed water droplets from the Evaporator coils.
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I am going to have to play spoil-sport here. ( ANd beat Arka to it.)

I really do not see anything radically new in this vehicle. Some military vehicles have had similar technology for more than 25 years.

Even the weapons to counter this stuff are now old, electronic pulse-wave and microwave disrupters that scramble chips and code.

I am feeling old. I yearn for a retrun to my days as an Airbourne System Programmer when we used to jump behind enemy lines and insert unstructured code and "Go To's" into enemy software and leave behind derogatory mocking remarks in hexadecimal.
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Old 29th April 2010, 12:48   #24
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Exactly my point, I would have thought that at 30 degree side approach, when all 4 wheels were on the wooden (makeshift mount), the Merc would topple. Makes me feel uneasy just looking at the pic, how was the feeling sitting inside?
It felt rather steep for sure. The seatbelts held us from sliding & slipping.

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I really do not see anything radically new in this vehicle.
True. But this showcasing wasn't meant for Team-BHP's 4x4 fanatics. It was a demonstration to the not-so-offroading inclined.

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You mean a traction control system that works in collaboration with the AWD, delivering / stopping power as per slippage? Which? I don't suppose hill hold or hill descent controls date back to 25 years either.

Or do they?
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Is it the HUMVEE That DD is referring here? It was originated in 1985 right? & It also had some sort of Hill Ascent & descent control systems, limited tire slippage along with Geared hubs for Independent suspensions all round.

Or is it something else?
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Some more pics from my side.
@Mods : If a similar thread exists please move the pics there.
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Very nice pics Manish!

@Mods - Do we actually have a thread of the best off-roading pictures i.e. A common thread where we put together pics of some of the best off-roading pictures - pics showing 4x4 vehicles doing steep inclines/declines, fording, stuck in obstacles, etc. Would be an awesome compilation.

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Well, the Jeep Wrangler already has off-road spec traction control, ABS and LSD. It also has a similar hill start assist function. I can tell you that the Wrangler is amongst the best hard-core offroaders available today.
To be precise Wrangler Rubicon is among the best hard-core offroaders.
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Great report !

Manish's shot of the black GL Class on the 30 deg has come out really well. One feels like rushing there to give support to that might SUV, to ensure it doesnt topple over

OT - makes me wonder.
Can the good ol' Zen with 'good rubber' do that 30 degree ?
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Wow !!..what a thread!I doubt any of the Merc SUV owners in India would ever subject their vehicles to these tests
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