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Old 29th September 2010, 22:58   #16
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The G13B carb engine costs peanuts.
For heaven's sake, don't think about modding the 1000cc engine, Devang.
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Dwarak Sir, Viji is right. I bought crawl gear set same and Khan_Sultans and tried to install in on my Deisel MG410 TC thinking that both TC of 413 and 410 are same. But it wasn't.

Same with Differential and Diff Locks.
So my crawl gears and Diff lockers are still stored in my cupboard.
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Is your Gypsy a Wide Track (Post 1995 without the FWH) or Narrow Track?

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Old 30th September 2010, 10:10   #18
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The G13B carb engine costs peanuts.
For heaven's sake, don't think about modding the 1000cc engine, Devang.

so you mean to say leave the 1000cc as it is and plonk G13b Carb or just run 1000cc


@shibu,

even i think TC is same only diffs are different.
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Replace the 1000cc F10 engine with the carburetted G13 engine.
Also, the esteem engine and the gypsy 1300 have different camshafts owing to their intended usage.
So, if you buy the engine that's off an esteem, you'll have to replace the camshaft with that of the gypsy.

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Hi Shibu,
Is your Gypsy a Wide Track (Post 1995 without the FWH) or Narrow Track?
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Arka, the the Gypsy which I was trying to install was a Narrow Track 1987 model with FWH.

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so you mean to say leave the 1000cc as it is and plonk G13b Carb or just run 1000cc
@shibu,
even i think TC is same only diffs are different.
No Devang, Thats what I was also thinking until I saw mine. May be the casing is same but the gears and ratios are different.
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what about the mounting?? is it bolt on??

will have to change the engine mounting and will i need any adapter plate?? (this for 1300 carb engine)
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If am not mistaken, the mountings will have to be redone, you will have to relocate them by welding. Location is different i guess.
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will i need adapter plate?
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I dont think adapter plates will work, you need to get new mounts and weld it based on new engine/gb mounting. Old ones needs to be knocked out.
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So, if you buy the engine that's off an esteem, you'll have to replace the camshaft with that of the gypsy.
Esteem cam should give a better top end power which I guess is what he's looking for.

Otherwise pretty much all Esteem related mods will work here.
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are all these engines easy to source, the baleno 1.6 or the Isuzu 1.8? and even though many have done these conversions, wont it always be best to retain the stock engine and have add ons which might boost the overall efficiency?
Baleno engine is rare to find and are pricy > 60K. Isuzu 1.8 engine is easy to source. you might get the carb version engine and 5 spead gearbox less <20k.

Is it not best to retain the stock engine? Yes it is . But there must be reason why you would want to go for higher powered engine. For me more power and high torque for offroading. I still miss my 1 ltr engine. But Isuzu gives me crawling like feel on offroading, which I could not get in stock 1ltr engine. FE is almost same.
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Guys, i own a 1990 Maruti gypsy 410 narrow track. I use it mostly on tarmac and occasionally on offroad trails.But now I feel the engine is breathing its last and has been losing lot of power lately. Hence, I'm looking for a 1.3 transplant for more power.I would like to know what all parts do I require to make a successful transplant to 1.3 (carb). I also want to know what is the difference between narrow track and wide track. I'm thinking of 1.3 mpfi as well, considering I crack a good deal. What do the experts suggest?

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Let me know if you want 1.3 engine as I am planning to upgrade to 1.6
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Guys, i own a 1990 Maruti gypsy 410 narrow track. I
My recommendation to you would be to sell off the narrow track vehicle and pick up a nice good going MPFI gypsy. Reasons why I'm saying this are
  • 1.3 ltr engine should be mated with 5 speed GB for optimum performance
  • Considering you got for an 1.3 ltr engine and 5speed GB, then you need to change the diff to match the ratio's
  • With all this in your plate, you would approx spend close a lakh on conversion
  • For which you can get a nice MPFI wide track for the same price, less headache
  • These conversions always have small glitches, so it better to get a MPFi, plus do go for a MPFi if you can afford it, saves a lot of headache.
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Baleno engine is rare to find and are pricy > 60K. Isuzu 1.8 engine is easy to source. you might get the carb version engine and 5 spead gearbox less <20k. .
I wonder why baleno engine still commands such premium when decent balenos upnorth a available for a tad above 1 lakh.

It would be worth while to explore junking a running beat down car and scavenge engine, radiator, EPS, AC, power windows which can be easily fit in Gypsy. Then sell big ticket time like head light, tail light, ORVM etc to other baleno owners on this forum and sell the rest as scrap.

IMHO will work out cheaper than buying an engine and complete peace of mind regarding source and reliability of parts.

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