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Old 11th February 2011, 10:38   #16
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I believe the copying work was done by a committee. It retained the Allies original (badly designed) screw on cap. Or maybe the American habit of wasting fuel (in whichever way possible) is hardwired into their genes.

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Actually the Indian version, which I believe is a copy of the UK version has a lockable bayonet/cam cap and not the American style screw cap.

Some interesting facts Jerrycan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For those who would like to fabricate a can holder for their vehicle, note the French Military version picture.
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Was referring to the Allied 'jerry' can, not the Indian one.

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Old 17th February 2011, 13:23   #18
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An idea on how to carry LOTS of jerrycans. Or one really big one...

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some ideas for fitting the Jerry Can
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An idea on how to carry LOTS of jerrycans. Or one really big one...
Ladakh beckons, I see!

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Old 18th February 2011, 10:43   #21
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In case you have not yet to got one, here is a source for the jerry can.

::OLIVE PLANET::

Store is in bangalore, sells army surplus, they say they ship to any place in India, do chk out the other links, they are lot of useful stuff for expeditions.

About the can holder, any additional weight (tyre + can) on the door without a good design will be a problem. Ideally if you can strap the tyre to floor (inside the luggage space), and mount 2 cans on the tyre holder on the rear door, that should work out better.

Easiest thing would be to fabricate a holder like this, secured with 2 straps, which is also available at olive planet.

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Regd placement, I liked this one, if you look closely, the base of the can holder rests on the bumper, there is an additional reinforcement there. Would require a bit of modification on an Endy. But this way, you can leave the tyre where it is.

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Guys, I came across this setup someone on another forum did on their GV.

I need to carry two 20L jerry cans for an upcoming trip. Is it safe to carry these cans inside the vehicle, given that they are well secured, seated properly and sealed?

The reason I ask is because unless safety is a major issue, I would rather have the cans inside the vehicle as it requires relatively easier modification, and is less prone to theft.

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I need to carry two 20L jerry cans for an upcoming trip. Is it safe to carry these cans inside the vehicle, given that they are well secured, seated properly and sealed?
- Petrol fumes are a hazard to your health, and can be explosive.
- Sloshing the fuel around builds pressure.
- Closed environment like a car cabin can increase temperature when you park the car under sun for a while.

The condition of your cans are a major deciding factor. Older the can, more the chances of the fumes leaking. I am assuming you would be opting for plastic cans to avoid static electric discharges while placing it/removing metal cans from between the seats/carpet.

Thinking a little out of the box, if you can design some contraption, a pipe to guide the fumes out through a small gap in the window, you should be good.
On second thoughts, I am not very sure if a moving car causes enough air pressure drop to suck the fumes out.

Your post made me realize that I have forgotten most of the things that I have learnt in school.
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- Petrol fumes are a hazard to your health, and can be explosive.
- Sloshing the fuel around builds pressure.
I'll only fill these cans to up to, say, 16-17L.

I recently bought (plastic) ProQuip 20L cans. Never used them before but the seals appear to be of solid quality, so I'm hoping there will be no leakage/fumes.

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Closed environment like a car cabin can increase temperature when you park the car under sun for a while.
Good point. Will have to keep this in mind. During driving the windows will most probably be rolled down partially at least.

Of course, an alternative is to buy a roof rack and install the cans there. Seems like an overkill right now since we don't have enough luggage to justify getting a roof rack given that there is a lot of space after tumble-folding the rear seats.

If I don't go for the in-cabin storage, I was thinking of putting the spare tyre inside the cabin (and tie it down, of course), and getting a small mount fabricated which can hold the cans and mount it where the spare tyre was on the tailgate.
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Cans designed for carrying fuel, have internal baffles to minimise sloshing of fuel. Normal metal or plastic cans originally used for oil or chemical storage do not have these baffles and are not very safe for carrying fuel, as sloshing will cause spills. Partially filled cans are even more dangerous as they will not only slosh more violently, but extra space will hold more fuel vapours than can explode.

This can has interesting characteristics
http://www.proquip.com.au/products/f...deto-stop.html
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- Petrol fumes are a hazard to your health, and can be explosive.
- Sloshing the fuel around builds pressure.
- Closed environment like a car cabin can increase temperature when you park the car under sun for a while.
How safe are the exterior mounted cans in case of a rear-ending accident? How safe are they for others? Are they legal? I've heard of cops stopping vehicles even for overhead luggage racks.
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How safe are the exterior mounted cans in case of a rear-ending accident?
Not safe at all in case of such an accident. But the odds of being rear ended in locations where it's hard to find petrol in the first place are quite low (since there are almost no other vehicles around). It's better to not fill up your jerry cans needlessly when you can find petrol abundantly. There's always a risk carrying fuel no matter what, we can try to minimize the risk by doing a few things.

TBH, I'm still tending towards keeping the cans inside the cabin (properly secured, however). It's just less headache. Will fill them up and see if I can at least smell vapors in a closed space at home.
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While searching for solutions to your fuel carrying problem, I stumbled up on this product. It is called FlexiTank, but for diesel only.

And also this note in their brochure.
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And also this note in their brochure.
Yikes. I will move the spare tyre inside and get a mount made to put the cans outside. Don't want to add the weight of the spare + 30 kg of petrol on the tailgate.

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I need to carry two 20L jerry cans for an upcoming trip. Is it safe to carry these cans inside the vehicle, given that they are well secured, seated properly and sealed?
Whatever you do, see to it that the holddown fixtures/ guards/ etc do not touch the jerrycans directly. Otherwise sooner or later you will rub a hole in the (plastic) can.

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