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Old 21st January 2013, 15:37   #16
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hi,

I am running with a ISZ 4jg2 Turbo with IT with its own 5sp - 4wd gear box on a MM540 taken from 4x4addict. Runs cool.

Displacement, cc3059
Engine model-4JG2
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm
125 ps (91.94 kw) / 3600 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm
28.0 kg*m (274.59 N*m) / 2000 rpm
Power density 15.92
Engine type -Serial 4 cylinder OHVIC turbo
Engine information-Whirlpool room type
Fuel system - Distribution type fuel injection system
Turbocharger -Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type
Diesel
LEV system (Low emission vehicle)
Compression ratio - 20
Bore, mm95.4
Stroke, mm107

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Old 21st January 2013, 22:04   #17
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Is this the kind of look you are going for?
http://gomotors.net/pics/Jeep/jeep-cj-6-03.jpg

I always loved the idea of a big-wheeled and tyred jeep though I'd only have the guts to do it to a MM550. Needless to say, I'll be glued to this thread. :-D
Hi, kind of similar look. Stock looks with lift and big tires.No fancy bumpers etc.

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What was the approx weight of the engine+starter+alt? Can the chassis take it?
Hi Santosh, i did not measure the engine. I will measure the weight once i remove the engine while painting. However google says the turbo charged version of this engine is 340kgs.I am not using the turbo . My fly wheel is an industrial flywheel which is 36 kgs compared to the automotive flywheel which is 28kgs.
Regarding the chassis , i cannot prove it technically . Since i dont intend to go for any fancy winch bumpers etc and have the batteries in the cabin , taking into account the dcm engine is 295kgs , and this engine has 4 engine mounts , 2 at the regular position and 2 near the fly wheel , the weight should be evenly distributed .

Chassis breakage used to happen with Jeeps fitted with the perkins p4 engine due to vibrations, this engine is quite silent .

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hi,

I am running with a ISZ 4jg2 Turbo with IT with its own 5sp - 4wd gear box on a MM540 taken from 4x4addict. Runs cool.

Displacement, cc3059
Engine model-4JG2
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm
125 ps (91.94 kw) / 3600 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm
28.0 kg*m (274.59 N*m) / 2000 rpm
Power density 15.92
Engine type -Serial 4 cylinder OHVIC turbo
Engine information-Whirlpool room type
Fuel system - Distribution type fuel injection system
Turbocharger -Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type
Diesel
LEV system (Low emission vehicle)
Compression ratio - 20
Bore, mm95.4
Stroke, mm107
HI Rajith. I have seen tinis Jeep when the engine was just plonked. Nice specs.

Initially i wanted to use the original IHI turbo and play with the kiki pump to get 50 + kgm torque . But later thought to use it NA and then see if i require a turbo.
One of my friend has bought 2 2006 mm550s and 2 4jg2 and isuzu gear box recently.

Initially i thought to use the trooper gearbox, but this engine is known for chewing up the drivetrain and parts are hard for the isuzu box. 22kgm figure is at idling.

This is the isuzu equivalent for the Cummins 4bt engine and its already got a pet name here , Double scorpio engine. Scorpio engine, nissan bd30 and DCM toyota , nissan RD28, perkins p4 etc engines look too puny to be compared.

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LEV system (Low emission vehicle)
I doubt if it is an LEV, unless made for US market, which year make is it?

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Initially i wanted to use the original IHI turbo and play with the kiki pump to get 50 + kgm torque .
Franky, tell me frankly, what is your actual torque requirement?

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I doubt if it is an LEV, unless made for US market, which year make is it?



Franky, tell me frankly, what is your actual torque requirement?

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Prateesh - it was written as LEV - No , but while copying "NO" missed.
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hi,

I am running with a ISZ 4jg2 Turbo with IT with its own 5sp - 4wd gear box on a MM540 taken from 4x4addict. Runs cool.

Displacement, cc3059
Engine model-4JG2
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm
125 ps (91.94 kw) / 3600 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm
28.0 kg*m (274.59 N*m) / 2000 rpm
Power density 15.92
Engine type -Serial 4 cylinder OHVIC turbo
Engine information-Whirlpool room type
Fuel system - Distribution type fuel injection system
Turbocharger -Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type
Diesel
LEV system (Low emission vehicle)
Compression ratio - 20
Bore, mm95.4
Stroke, mm107

Hi Rajith,

Can you tell me an approx cost for this setup and where i can source it from.

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Sandeep,

Cj6 is a LWB one or same as 540/550 ? Waiting for the final product

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Old 22nd January 2013, 12:12   #22
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Hi Rajith,

Can you tell me an approx cost for this setup and where i can source it from.

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Sorry Sandeep to take some space in clearing the above friends querry.

Hi Abhi,

Mine is a 2002 MM540- 4wd and KL regd.

with 53 OKBJ set up in front and 57 FFRA with 4.88 diff ratio, Rane power steering, Disc breaks,Hardtop,AC, Front facing seats with above ISZ 4GJ2BT setup with 5sp 4wd, all 4 Bilsteins , MRF AT Wanderer 31inch tyres on scorpio 16 inch rims.

Entire set up was done by Tini and may be he spend around 3 to 3.5L apart from vehicle cost and lot of man hours on this project. Seems it costed Engine & Gbox alone at the shop @ slightly above 1.2Lac.

Runs cool. Engine and gear box is just superb and now well balanced on this set up now !!. Engine gets fired in a fraction of a second,even stopped for a month outside the garage under sun or rain.

Only thing of concern is , it drink diesel like coke !.

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I doubt if it is an LEV, unless made for US market, which year make is it?



Franky, tell me frankly, what is your actual torque requirement?

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Trying to find out whats my limit

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Sandeep,

Cj6 is a LWB one or same as 540/550 ? Waiting for the final product

- Sreejesh
Cj6 is 101" wheelbase ,6 inches longer than 550.Even im waiting for the outcome.

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Sorry Sandeep to take some space in clearing the above friends querry.

Hi Abhi,

Mine is a 2002 MM540- 4wd and KL regd.

with 53 OKBJ set up in front and 57 FFRA with 4.88 diff ratio, Rane power steering, Disc breaks,Hardtop,AC, Front facing seats with above ISZ 4GJ2BT setup with 5sp 4wd, all 4 Bilsteins , MRF AT Wanderer 31inch tyres on scorpio 16 inch rims.

Entire set up was done by Tini and may be he spend around 3 to 3.5L apart from vehicle cost and lot of man hours on this project. Seems it costed Engine & Gbox alone at the shop @ slightly above 1.2Lac.

Runs cool. Engine and gear box is just superb and now well balanced on this set up now !!. Engine gets fired in a fraction of a second,even stopped for a month outside the garage under sun or rain.

Only thing of concern is , it drink diesel like coke !.
Rajith there is no 53" okbj and 57" FFRA.The engine you have is 4jg2 turbo
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Rajith there is no 53" okbj and 57" FFRA.The engine you have is 4jg2 turbo
He sure was typing that in some hurry.
I think he meant 57" OKBJ and 53" FFRA.
Cheers and all the best for your project.
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He sure was typing that in some hurry.
I think he meant 57" OKBJ and 53" FFRA.
Cheers and all the best for your project.
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Sorry Sandeep to take some space in clearing the above friends querry.

Hi Abhi,

Mine is a 2002 MM540- 4wd and KL regd.

with 53 OKBJ set up in front and 57 FFRA with 4.88 diff ratio, Rane power steering, Disc breaks,Hardtop,AC, Front facing seats with above ISZ 4GJ2BT setup with 5sp 4wd, all 4 Bilsteins , MRF AT Wanderer 31inch tyres on scorpio 16 inch rims.

Entire set up was done by Tini and may be he spend around 3 to 3.5L apart from vehicle cost and lot of man hours on this project. Seems it costed Engine & Gbox alone at the shop @ slightly above 1.2Lac.

Runs cool. Engine and gear box is just superb and now well balanced on this set up now !!. Engine gets fired in a fraction of a second,even stopped for a month outside the garage under sun or rain.

Only thing of concern is , it drink diesel like coke !.

Thanks Rajith for the reply. From what you describe this must be one killer machine to drive. Happy Jeeping.
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Just googled found the torque curve of this engine in NA form .

Can some one tell me how the torque gets affected with every kg added to the flywheel weight?

How is the intake air temp with the Intercooler + airfilter in the engine bay?

And just with a snorkel with out intercooler?

Airfilter in the engine bay sends hot air into the intercooler which inturn cools the air and sends it to the engine .

Case 2, snorkel directly sends the air into the engine which is cooler than the engine bay air?
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hi,

I am running with a ISZ 4jg2 Turbo with IT with its own 5sp - 4wd gear box on a MM540 taken from 4x4addict. Runs cool.

Displacement, cc3059
Engine model-4JG2
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm
125 ps (91.94 kw) / 3600 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm
28.0 kg*m (274.59 N*m) / 2000 rpm
Power density 15.92
Engine type -Serial 4 cylinder OHVIC turbo
Engine information-Whirlpool room type
Fuel system - Distribution type fuel injection system
Turbocharger -Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type
Diesel
LEV system (Low emission vehicle)
Compression ratio - 20
Bore, mm95.4
Stroke, mm107

Hi Rajith,

I have just sourced this engine for one of the jeeps I am currently working on, would need your help in finding the supplier for its spare parts. I am currently looking for the clutch assembly and the clutch forks (didnt get them with the engine)

It would be great if you could let mme know the exact part numbers too.

Looking forward to hear back from you.

Best,

Gobind
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[quote=gpsbrar;3386706]Hi Rajith,

I have just sourced this engine for one of the jeeps I am currently working on, would need your help in finding the supplier for its spare parts. I am currently looking for the clutch assembly and the clutch forks (didnt get them with the engine)

It would be great if you could let mme know the exact part numbers too.

Looking forward to hear back from you.

Best,

Gobind[/QUOTE
V simple sir.Fit from Tavera.Oil filter from Lancer.Rest many items shared from Tavera

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Been long since i have updated. The jeep is ready and pic will come up soon. The final specs are
isuzu4bd1 engine and kmt 90 gearbox with borg warner transfercase.

35 inch tires and 6 point roll cage. Will post the details with pics.
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