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Old 5th April 2010, 11:21   #91
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Guess you will have change the crown and pinion as well as the full floating conversion will require axles to be changed to 19 spline.

The pick up axle may not do since the diff cover/pumkin is centered in a 4x4 pickup despite the right off-set of the T-case since there is enough length for prop shaft to be at an angle. As Arka suggested you will need to source a Bolero 4x4 rear axle and swap the tubes around to change the offset from left to right. In my opinion it is not worth it given that the invader isn't exactly a power house like the Scorpio/Thar.
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Thanks Arka and 4x4addict.
The bolero camper comes with a FFRA.May be that would do the job, not sure though.
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Did anyone notice this Invader in pic? It had a NEF TC engine with multi-link coil suspension at the rear?
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so whats the status on the invader?
is it available for sale? or its just test vehicle for EXPORTS?

looks auto-hubs with Independent front suspension.
i assume same suspension set up as thar-scorpio.
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I'm guessing the older ones with XD3P had a Dana 44 19 Spline FFRA.
Yes, you are correct IIRC, XD3P usually comes with 4.88.

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so whats the status on the invader?
is it available for sale? or its just test vehicle for EXPORTS?

looks auto-hubs with Independent front suspension.
i assume same suspension set up as thar-scorpio.
This is a prototype only, it has Scorpio suspension front and rear.

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This is a prototype only, it has Scorpio suspension front and rear.

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Cool..when is it expected to be released for us lesser mortals?
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Thanks Arka and 4x4addict.
The bolero camper comes with a FFRA.May be that would do the job, not sure though.
You better check this. I do not think the newer Bolero Campers come with FFRA.
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You better check this. I do not think the newer Bolero Campers come with FFRA.
This is the spec sheet for the Bolero camper from Mahindra small CV website.

ENGINE
Engine MDI 3200TC A Direct Injection Diesel
Type 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, Inline
Cubic Capacity 2523 cc
Max. Engine output 46.3kW@3200rpm(IS)
63HP@3200rpm(IS)
Max Torque 18 Kgm @1500 rpm (IS)

GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS
Transmission Type 4 forward , 1 reverse
Front Axle 2WD : Dead tubular
4WD:Full Floating hypoid
Rear Axle Full Floating hypoid type
Steering Recirculating ball type with " U" Joint.
Turning radius: 6.35 m

BRAKES
Type Hydraulic, Tandem Master, Cylinder with Vacuum Assisted Servo
Front Disc & caliper type (113mm)
Rear Drum type (279.4 x 50.8 HNSS)

WHEELS & TYRES
Tyre 235/75 R15

SEATING CAPACITY
Seating 1+3 (optional 1+4)

FUEL TANK
Capacity 57 litres

WEIGHT
G.V.W. 2750kg

Payload 2 WD: 1025 Kg, 4WD: 945 Kg
Cargo Box Size (mm3) 1481 x 1532 x 750
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I will bet the web page is wrong. I have seen the newer ones on the road with semi-floating rear axles.

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I will bet the web page is wrong. I have seen the newer ones on the road with semi-floating rear axles.
AFAIK all mm camper have FFRA & other pickup series have SFRA.

but it is also possible that a (un)lucky mm camper have SFRA. (nothing is impossible for them)
(have seen some new mahindras with non standard axles ex. diff track, SFRA's or FFRA's)

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This is the spec sheet for the Bolero camper from Mahindra small CV website....
I wouldn't use the web-site as a fool-proof reference. There is usually some difference between what is shown in their site, and what is actually available.

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AFAIK all mm camper have FFRA & other pickup series have SFRA...
are you sure? I thought it should be the other way aroud : SFRA for the campers and FFRA on the pickups(heavy-load-carrying).

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are you sure? I thought it should be the other way aroud : SFRA for the campers and FFRA on the pickups(heavy-load-carrying).
Even i was wondering the same, but i guess its true since i noticed the same in the last one week. Most of pick ups have SFRA and the lone bolero camper i saw had FFRA lol
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Even i was wondering the same, but i guess its true since i noticed the same in the last one week. Most of pick ups have SFRA and the lone bolero camper i saw had FFRA lol
Hi Guys,

The FFRA has 2 additional Bearings which increase the friction hence the vehicles are unable to meet emission norms.

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Hi Guys,

The FFRA has 2 additional Bearings which increase the friction hence the vehicles are unable to meet emission norms.

Regards,

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Finally, one agrees on why SFRA is better than FFRA w.r.t the emission norms..

BTW, isnt it amazing what the Emission norms has done to our country - Changed them from Amby / Fiats to modern monsters [read toyota fortuner/chevy captiva/ Hyundai Terracan / BMW X5 / MB M class...]
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AFAIK all mm camper have FFRA & other pickup series have SFRA.
see scanned brochure of camper .
REAR AXLE:FULL FLOATING HYPOID TYPE.
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see scanned brochure of camper .
REAR AXLE:FULL FLOATING HYPOID TYPE.

I am not trying to cause trouble here but M&Ms web page and literature are usually out of date. I will still bet 2 rupees that they have switched to semi and probably as far back as 3 years ago.

But the important thing is that you can get a FFRA if you scrounge around.
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