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Old 25th January 2012, 10:18   #106
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Vishnu, my 2p; some of it I had already texted you-

Mine is running 31x10.5x15. I had to cut a small triangular portion from the lower inner side of the fender to accomodate the width. The turning radius was not affected at all. I can confidently say this since I take four u-turns 2 right and 2 left when I drive to work, and I didn't notice any difference between the stock and new. Also, I never do a complete twist of the steering.

32-11.50-15 or 32-12.50-15 - w/o negative offset; I would advise against it, as this is sure to make you cut more fender as well as cause you turning radius issues because of additional width. There is a post in some thread here where a 275 on 15 caused scraping issues with a load of 5-6 passengers. I will try to find that post for you. It's scraping on the insides I am talking about. Vertically you will not have an issue I guess because of the added height from IronMan else you will have to remove the fenders.

w/ negative offset maybe some one else can explain - I suspect this might cause load bearing issues with king pin etc. Also, doesn't look great for a daily drive with that lip!

MT - Again, if I understand correctly, you drive to work as well as make frequent trips to Bangalore. MT will wear out faster on highways. Go for an AT.

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Is that you in that interview video (on the RHS of the page) talking about the Ironman suspension ?
Yup, that's him on the video! When did this happen?

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Old 25th January 2012, 20:33   #107
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Shyam thank you very much for this information! To this day I have had a huge dilemma about which size of tyre to get. I was weighing the advantages and disadvantages of each of my options, negative offset vs no offset, etc.

After all my research, I still had not decided but now with your critical piece of information that even a 175 width tyre was scraping on the Endy, I have FINALLY made up my mind about what to get!

My choice: 15x8j Black STEEL wheels with 13mm negative offset paired with 31x10.5x15 Yokohama Geolandar MT tyres.

The reason I'm going for MT: Im tired of playing it safe and conservative. I'm going all out and going to make my Endy an amazingly capable mud slinging machine (for its size). Besides, the Yoko MTs are by far my favorite looking tyres in the world. I have dreamed of having them on my truck from the moment I first saw them!

The negative offset on these wheels are quite minimal and should not have a big effect on joints and suspension. If it does, it will be very minimal and I think I can deal with that. The negative offset will also be just enough to push the tyres out to the edge of the fenders making the car look a lot more aggressive. I love that look when not overdone and I think that this will be absolutly PERFECT. Cannot wait till I have it on the Endy

Im also thinking of getting a thin green or red pinstripe near the circumference of the black rims to match the green on the "Ironman 4x4" Stickers or the red on the "Red Rooster Performance" emblem. Feedback is welcome.

OT: Did you end up going for that beach drive? Will join you next time when I have my tyres. I guarantee that they are going to make you jealous.

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Yup that's me.
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It was 2 OTRs before the one you joined us on. Video was taken at Adventure zone

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Old 25th January 2012, 22:18   #108
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^^^ Am already jealous.

And BTW, black wheels and your dark tints is going to make the beast look gangsta! I'd love it! Do you really want to spoil the gangsta look by lining it with green? Would suggest RED if you must.

Can't wait to see the beast get meaner...
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Too bad - I was hoping to see the Endy do some stunts - Maybe it would with MT tyres - Go for 35
You have to be joking about 35s. I can't get 35s unless I have a 4" suspension lift, 2 inch body lift, massive negatively offset rims and get a manual tranny with a different final drive ratio or different diff ratios. I'm thinking of going to 32" MAX. And you're telling me to get 35s. Funny guy.

I'm curious to know how you think I could legitimately fit 35s

I will definitely get the 32" size though. Just waiting for prices to go down and to see if I can get it in 10.5 width as that would be ideal.

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List your plans of Modifications that you think will make the endy a great OTR machine..Take it easy in little steps.

Have seen many people get all the goodies and yet get stuck in a OTR - They get frustrated!!
In the order that I have planned in my head: First priority is to improve RAMP ANGLE as this has proven to be the weak point so far.

1) 32" MT Tyres (32x11.5x15s with Negative offset Rims. Dont care much about CL move. Im guessing it will last with a -30mm offset for about 20,000 kms before needing something replaced. I can live with that)

2) Rear Powertrax Locker (Order online or available locally? Price locally vs online? Online $330)

3) Snorkel (From Ironman 4x4. Cheaper varieties available?)

4) Steel Rear bumper with attached Tow Hook (Swastik Viji)

5) Rock sliders and Front Bullbar (Swastik Viji)

Thanks for the help
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74 Pages of Modified Ford Endeavours!!! (or "Ranger" as they are called in Australia)

View topic - Ranger show & shine | Australian 4WD Action

Mine is on page 73
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I've just paid for some 31x10.5x15 Maxxis Boghorn MTs!!! Been waiting a long time to some solid MTs on my truck and that day will finally come! Was aiming to get some 32x11.5s but that's just not available in India right now and by the looks of it (after talking to several dealers) they will not be available for a long while either. Just need to go out there and buy myself some new 15" wheels now with some nice negative offset. Thinking of getting something like -10 offset as stock is +10 offset. I want the tyres pushing out of the fenders a bit for that aggressive look. Will post pics once I have them on. Going to ask Swastik Viji to make some -10mm offset BLACK steel wheels for that awesome all black aggressive look.

Heres a picture of them at Pavan Anand's shop in Bombay. They are fitted with some nice alloys there but I want to get something less flashy.
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Wow - Vish Congrats on the new shoes, Hope they give you the grip to go where you want!
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I've just paid for some 31x10.5x15 Maxxis Boghorn MTs!!!...........them at Pavan Anand's shop in Bombay. They are fitted with some nice alloys there but I want to get something less flashy.
Now that is one meaty looking shoes!! If you already replaced the old ones, would you be kind enough to serve those hots pics as the next sizzler?

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Now that is one meaty looking shoes!! If you already replaced the old ones, would you be kind enough to serve those hots pics as the next sizzler?

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Havent received the tyres yet. Will be getting them only in 4 to 5 days. Also, here are the rims im thinking of putting on. Only small problem is that they are -23mm offset which I think might be a bit much. Stock offset is +10. Still getting opinions from an Australian forum about this matter. Here are the rims: 15x8j BLACK STEELIES

Any of you have advice regarding the negative offset? I understand it will put a strain on joints and stuff. What joints will I need to replace and how often if I do put these on? Thanks
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Havent received the tyres yet. Will be getting them only in 4 to 5 days. Also, here are the rims im thinking of putting on. Only small problem is that they are -23mm offset which I think might be a bit much. Stock offset is +10. Still getting opinions from an Australian forum about this matter. Here are the rims: 15x8j BLACK STEELIES

Any of you have advice regarding the negative offset? I understand it will put a strain on joints and stuff. What joints will I need to replace and how often if I do put these on? Thanks
Vishnu, Vishnu, that please don't go for THAT rim. It will spoil the look of the Endy and more like an insult. Why don't you go for alloys?
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Vishnu, Vishnu, that please don't go for THAT rim. It will spoil the look of the Endy and more like an insult. Why don't you go for alloys?
Hmm, I wanted to go for the all black look. Why not those rims? Because of the offset or the looks? Steel rims are cheaper than alloys and I like the look of them better. Alloys are too flashy for an Offroad truck in my opinion. Don't want any chrome on my wheels at all.

Also, I would have got 32x11.5x15 but it want available anywhere. Also after research I found out that most 31x10.5 tyres are only 30.6 inches tall and most 32x11.5 tyres are 32.6 to 32.7 inches tall. This maxxis bighorn 31x10.5 is a full 31 inches tall and 10.9 inches wide. Good stuff. So not too much smaller than a 32" tyre.
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Any of you have advice regarding the negative offset? I understand it will put a strain on joints and stuff. What joints will I need to replace and how often if I do put these on? Thanks
There is a thread on Wheel alignment on this forum I guess. Search the forum, understand wheel suspension geometry and relation to Steering Geometry. How the loads land and where the forces are directed to.

Tyre wear and premature failure of parts are the known issues - The unknown ones will be embraced on the OTRs.
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These just arrived! Now just waiting to put it on the black steel rims for that all black look. With a touch of Ironman green
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Just look at this BEAST! New tyres and rims fitted just yesterday.

Rims: 15x8j -23mm offset 6 bolt 139.7 (from Zac Marrat at Ironman 4x4)
Tyres: Maxxis Bighorn 31x10.5x15 (from Pavan Anand)
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