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Old 13th January 2012, 08:25   #61
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Jaggu - your pic is the master cylinder - (srini - this is just below the brake pedal fit onto the chassis). You need to go below the driver side of the jeep and see this. Let us know if it is a one or two pipes-out system.

I was referring to the wheel cylinder - at the brake drum. See pics. The rear usually comes with 1 wheel cylinder - from the exterior you will see only 1 brake fluid pipe going into the drum - to feed the only cyl inside the drum.

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The 2 cylinder setup (recomended on the front) from outside will have 1-extra pipe to feed the 2nd cylinder.

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Regd tyres - you really dont have much of a choice. If you want to stick to 16" Jeep540 Rims - get a set of MRF ROVER or many a brand like that. They come IIRC 165 to 195 width (i cld be wrong), and they cost around 4K each~. What we are trying to say is instead of putting 16K on a compromise - get 4 gypsy RIMS at 500-600 each and get 195-215 section Radials (even chinese tyres come @ 4K each) and under 20K you get more promising braking action!
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Thanks Santhosh ji for Clear pictorial explantion.
After checking the JEEP as per pics, it is confirmed it is a 2 cylinder setup in front and 1 cylinder at back.

Hope 15" Gypsy RIMS are a straight fit without any modification what so ever to 540!

Now the hunt starts for sourcing 15" Gypsy RIMS

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You can try for normal road tyres which fit the same rim then ^^. Changing disc will cost you about 3500 for new gypsy disc, if so i would recommend Yokohama Geolander ATS
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You can try for normal road tyres which fit the same rim then ^^. Changing disc will cost you about 3500 for new gypsy disc, if so i would recommend Yokohama Geolander ATS
Jaggu saab,

Did you mean I can stick to original Rims and go for above mentioned tyres?


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Nope they wont fit stock disc, for that you will have to look at el cheapo road tyre from JK or Birla
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Nope they wont fit stock disc, for that you will have to look at el cheapo road tyre from JK or Birla
Yep got it, Will look for Gypsy RIMS first and then go for new tyres on 15" !

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Do let me know if any of you come across Gypsy RIMS for SALE.
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Nope they wont fit stock disc, for that you will have to look at el cheapo road tyre from JK or Birla
Hi, IIRC, isnt stock MM540 and Gypsy rims, both 5J? If so, wouldn't 540 rims do the job? Or are 540 rims 4.5J?

Also, any idea about what the army spec rims are? 5.5J?

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Yep got it, Will look for Gypsy RIMS first and then
Sriny, if you can get Army 550 rims, it would be better than gypsy rims, but might cost a bit high.
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Hi, IIRC, isnt stock MM540 and Gypsy rims, both 5J? If so, wouldn't 540 rims do the job? Or are 540 rims 4.5J?

Also, any idea about what the army spec rims are? 5.5J?
Not sure about the J specs but the dia of army and 540 is 16" so how will it fit tyres that are for gypsy which is 15"?

Am not big fan of army rims since they are too heavy, only recommended for such heavy duty usage.
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Not sure about the J specs but the dia of army and 540 is 16" so how will it fit tyres that are for gypsy which is 15"?

Am not big fan of army rims since they are too heavy, only recommended for such heavy duty usage.
I mean, he can have Appolo Hawk or BS Dueller HT's on stock 16" rims, and also, those chineese, taiwaneese (?) stuff. Also, Jaggu, do you have any idea if Yoko geolanders (AT) are available in 235/70 - R16?

And I agree with your opinion about the weight of army rims. But, I just love the way they look!
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I mean, he can have Appolo Hawk or BS Dueller HT's on stock 16" rims, and also, those chineese, taiwaneese (?) stuff. Also, Jaggu, do you have any idea if Yoko geolanders (AT) are available in 235/70 - R16?

And I agree with your opinion about the weight of army rims. But, I just love the way they look!
For a 2WD 540 HT tyre is enough and JK elanzo also do the job perfectly. But for show off 31" MT is the best.
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Also, Jaggu, do you have any idea if Yoko geolanders (AT) are available in 235/70 - R16?
Considering it is the most common size for SUVs in India, it must be available. I have the same size in GV, but Michelin LTX AT2.

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For a 2WD 540 HT tyre is enough and JK elanzo also do the job perfectly. But for show off 31" MT is the best.
He has plans for converting it to 4WD, so you can't suggest based on 2WD status.
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He has plans for converting it to 4WD, so you can't suggest based on 2WD status.
Ok I got it. If converting with in a year the it make sense .

Geolander is OK if you can compromise in OTR or MT/NDMS nothing else will come close to it.
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Gents,
Thanks for all info.

Yep have plans to convert to 4WD in future.. Timeframe not sure thou as on date.

Just started enjoying the JEEP rides and it does really need a new shoes as the current one can give away any time !

As per Yokohoma website found this data, hope this may suffice !
205/70R15 96S
Seems like these costed around 6.5k (ok slightly different prifile) last year as per some other threads (source below)

After reading this thread on one of the user review Iam raising this question

Since the JEEP will run around Kolar on Mud tracks (read very bad roads) almost every week or every other weekend, hope this tyre will last. As the purpose of the tyre is not only Tarmac.

Referred thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ander-s-2.html

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The JEEP had been to another New workshop for checking the Brake assembly in complete. It took almost a full day
But I should appreciate the garage which was very professional and very clean job, especially for a JEEP unlike other workshops around. Cost is on higher side (later on that)

I also noticed lot of Police/Govt vehicles (JEEPS) came there for repairs! The owner seem to have received some awards long back (will get more details on next visit).

Coming to the actual repair part;
Parts changed are Rear wheel cylinder kit (2Nos) - 180
Master Cylinder kit - 380
Brake oil 1/2 Litre - 150
Grease cup 1 no - 40
Grease 1/2 kg - 150
Rear wheel oil seal 2 Nos - 180
Labour for all works - 1250
Total Bill paid - 2330

Though Im not sure on the (escalated) price of parts, certainly the labour seem to be on higher side.
After repair the brake seems smooth than before and marginally feels better in braking.

However the Mechanic informed that the Water (from radiator) is mixing with Engine Oil. Does he mean a Engine overhaul ???
He quotes that this may take 2 complete days and charges may scale upwards of 10k.

Gurus please comment !!!
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The JEEP which was very useful (especially for my bro) as people carrier, luggage towing, weekend visit to his farm etc. on country roads was at rest for the past 2- 3 months or so due to radiator water leakage into engine oil.
ON a casual chat with the JEEP seller referred us to a mechanic @ JC road and we took the JEEP there. Upon inspection he informed us that the O’ring on the head for cylinders needs to be replaced to stop the leakage. We went ahead and left the jeep for replacement as necessary.
After about 5 days we got the Jeep back and he told us to run the engine for 1k kms @ 40kmpl and comeback for oil change. During this run-in we noticed lot of black smoke from exhaust. We even called mechanic and enquired the same and he mentioned just run for 1k and after that the diesel pump will need tuning and assured all will be ok.

We were not happy with the Job done, called S.V Santosh and informed that there is an abnormal noise in the engine and lot of smoke from exhaust and we needed to see his Jeep mechanic. As usual he was glad to help us.
The grin on mechanics face was telling a lot upon the first start of the engine! He informed that the looks like compression does not look good and the engine needs to be opened up.

One thing is the cost involved but my brother and I are so addicted to get car in running shape we just went ahead and asked mechanic to start the work right away to start stripping it.

Since I had to travel to Singapore for my Job, Santosh is completely follwing the progress on each stage. Thanks a ton to Santosh for all his extraordinary help!

Below are snaps of the Engine after dismantling. -courtesy from santosh
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