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Old 25th July 2013, 21:29   #91
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Dana 44 use 2 Different Carriers for the same pumpkin.

This is known as the Carrier Break
1) 3.73 and Below - 3.73:1 to 2.72:1
2) 3.92 and Above - 3.92:1 to 5.89:1

Dana 44 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To convert a 3.73:1 to 4.88:1 you will have to change the carrier to the Older Mahindra JEEPs Differential Carrier.

Rustys Offroad: Dana 44 Low Ratio Carrier

3.73=41/11
4.88=44/9
5.38=43/8

Typical cost of the conversion.
1) Differential Carriers 2X Rs500-1000
2) Crown & Pinion 2X Rs3000-5000
3) Carrier Bearing 2 X 2 X Rs 500
4) Labour Charges 2 X Rs1000-2000

The Locker/LSD Specification will be for a Dana 44 19 Spline 3.92 and Up Carrier.

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Hi MM550,

Did you have to change anything in the exhaust to accommodate the wider tyres specially the rear right one?
I upgraded to 16/235 yoko AT and although in a straight line there is enough clearance however when I take a tight left hand turn the tyre rubs against the point where the exhaust is curving in.

Any advise would be appreciated.
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No you dont have to change the carrier in the Di. I have jus converyed to 4.88 in the same carrier
you cannot. The bolt holes of the crown gear will not align with the 4.88 carrier. I have converted on multiple jeeps.

@Ronnie, you are correct. The carrier is different. You cannot put 4.88 and 3.73 carrier.
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you cannot. The bolt holes of the crown gear will not align with the 4.88 carrier. I have converted on multiple jeeps.

@Ronnie, you are correct. The carrier is different. You cannot put 4.88 and 3.73 carrier.
You are free to check on my Thar di
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Hi all, Imagine a guy who wants a Thar DI 4X2 only for the sake of having a JEEP as his signature vehicle. He has a sedate driving style (Read 80-100 max) and wants an uncomplicated JEEP which can outlast him. The machine would see bad roads but would never do proper type off-roading. Comfort + Robust is the mantra. What mods would be advised for the Thar DI to be one such vehicle?
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Then he should stick to Thar CRDe, the DI is not a comfort vehicle at all.
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Pjango: As Samurai said, forger the DI, buy a new or used Thar CRDe. I will buy the transfer case and front axles from him, since he wants 4x2.
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Thanks Samurai & 4X4addict !! That man promises to hand over the axle & transfer case to 4X4addict the day he'd get his Thar Crde ! Wish him courage to talk to his wife about a Thar
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Hi, if this guy has a budget upto DI 4x2 only and the marginal extra mileage in a DI matters to him, then what would you suggest? How much of a difference would the CF leaf springs bring? I think he's clear about two things:
1. He wants a DI 4x2
2. He wants to make it as comfortable as possible by improving the hard suspension only, or may be better seats etc.
Thanks for being so kind & patient!
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Hi, if this guy has a budget upto DI 4x2 only and the marginal extra mileage in a DI matters to him, then what would you suggest? How much of a difference would the CF leaf springs bring? I think he's clear about two things:
1. He wants a DI 4x2
2. He wants to make it as comfortable as possible by improving the hard suspension only, or may be better seats etc.
Thanks for being so kind & patient!
Remove RHS tool box and make the plat form clean and painted as factory finish.
Fit Scorpio front seats with arm rest. Do proper reinforcement of the plat form.
OE carpets for front and back rom THAR CRDe models came in 2011 and late 2012.
Change front wind shield to Thar CRDe type.(Will held reducing rust,dust and squeaking noise).
Rear front facing seats can be from Sierra or from BMT co driver ones.
No CFL please(Many reasons, I have used since 2008 for 3 mahindra vehicles) use Bilsteins,TEINS,TJM or any affordable gas shocks.
Try Bolero ZLX rear springs, front don't touch.
Do proper Anti rust coat as DIs are Rust friendly.
Hyderbad HT,Power steering,AC (lot of mods reqd)if Funds permit.
Upgrade head lights,Horn etc.

And drive it as is..

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Thank-you Rajith for the exhaustive list of to-dos. This would suffice. I can see them happening in phases..
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No CFL please(Many reasons, I have used since 2008 for 3 mahindra vehicles) use Bilsteins,TEINS,TJM or any affordable gas shocks.
Try Bolero ZLX rear springs, front don't touch.
Do proper Anti rust coat as DIs are Rust friendly.
Hyderbad HT,Power steering,AC (lot of mods reqd)if Funds permit.

Hi. I have Di 4x2. Could you please throw some more light on 'No CFL please'
Also, does changing the shocks really help a lot? Or is it just marginal comfort?
I am myself contemplating changing the shocks, thus help from your side will hugely benefit me. What would the cost factor be like?
Please tell more about bolero ZLX leaf springs too. I have got 2 leaves removed from each of the 4 sets. It has helped a lot.
Thanx!
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Hi all, Imagine a guy who wants a Thar DI 4X2 only for the sake of having a JEEP as his signature vehicle. He has a sedate driving style (Read 80-100 max) and wants an uncomplicated JEEP which can outlast him. The machine would see bad roads but would never do proper type off-roading. Comfort + Robust is the mantra. What mods would be advised for the Thar DI to be one such vehicle?
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What an exact description of me my friend!

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I am myself contemplating changing the shocks, thus help from your side will hugely benefit me. What would the cost factor be like?
Hi Jassi,

I had bilstiens in my MM540 which I bought in US for about 60 US$ per shock and they made a huge difference in taking the edge way from the suspension. The suspension never felt like it threw you onto a concrete slab, but rather onto a WWF wrestling floor. It stills hurts, but doesn't break your bones like the stock suspension.

Now, I have Ironmans on my Thar DI. not as good as the bilstiens I had, but still better than stock. Basically, they don't remove the blow, but soften it somewhat.

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I have got 2 leaves removed from each of the 4 sets. It has helped a lot.
Thanx!
Did you remove from front and back? I got winch bumper and winch in front, so the front is okay, but back kicks like mad, so wanted to revmove a leaf from the back....
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Did you remove from front and back? I got winch bumper and winch in front, so the front is okay, but back kicks like mad, so wanted to revmove a leaf from the back....
Thank you for your help.

Yes, I got 2 leaves removed from the back sets also. It really helps. Also it keeps the jeep straight, in the sense that getting leaves only from the front removed will make it lean forward. I have been driving like this for more than one year now without a problem. Though, the real comfort amongst all things I have tried has come from the very nicely and heavily cushioned bucket seats I got tailored.
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