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Old 5th June 2012, 14:31   #16
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  1. Dashboard - Probably will be replaced but it only costs 1200/-
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This is probably just the 'shell' of the dashboard. make sure you also get all the other smaller plastic parts required to complete the new look of the dashboard.
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We did not buy the bare chassis , it was bought complete with the junk body in running condition with a MPFI motor and registration for 125k. The body was scrapped since it needed a lot of work . So at the moment we have everything required to complete a stock gypsy with us.

Replacements that are needed -
  1. Windshield /Side Glass Set
  2. Rubbers
  3. Lock set
  4. Headlights / backlights / indicators
  5. Dashboard - Probably will be replaced but it only costs 1200/-
  6. Front and Rear Bumpers
The onroad price of the Soft top Gypsy is close to 6 lacs in the NCR region , Currently we are at 2.2 lacs only.

The tyres will be a major burden , but even with that taken into acount the cost will not exceed 3.25
All the above should cost approx 15k

But the major expense would be on -

Wiring harnesses - 20k which should be changed in such a detailed project
Tyres -30k
Paint Job for a really good one - 20k
Starter - 6k
Alternator - 6k
Labor for the entire job including servicing of the eng and gb- 20k
Braking system all parts - 5k
Ignition coil - 2k
Battery - 5k
All belts and cables - 2k
All mounts - 3k
Upholstery - 10k
Miscellaneous believe me many other things will come up - 10k

All this assuming the ecm, engine and gb is in very good condition.

So that's a total of approx 3.75L and that believe me will be a great value for money and above all...effort!! because what you will have will be a brand new Gypsy at a 35% discount.

Just FYI when i did my restoration project on the ex army gypsy (which was not focused on body work, only 10k max on mostly paint as the body was not rusted at all) i spent 1.25L on mechanicals over and above the vehicle acquisition cost and it was a carb so no electricals related costs were involved.

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This is probably just the 'shell' of the dashboard. make sure you also get all the other smaller plastic parts required to complete the new look of the dashboard.
Yeah from what i know it costs approx 1800 for the full set.

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Current state of the build , work has slowed down as attention is diverted to the cars being prepared for the Mughal Rally

Will update more as the build progresses.
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WBD,

what is the condition of old body shell? I am interested in depending on the condition.

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Hi,

I can check , we did not buy the shell so the seller might have it .

Will check and PM you.
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I can check
Can you check how much a new front bumpers costs? Cuz I have a brand new bumper lying in my garage Planning to hold a garage sale, and see how much money comes out..

The bumpers with corners..
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Hi,

I can check , we did not buy the shell so the seller might have it .

Will check and PM you.
Hi, Hope you checked with the seller for the gypsy shell? please let me know.

Am in urget need.


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Hmm, sorry I am not gypsy literate, is the GB->Tcase shaft OE on all gypsies? Interesting setup.
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Hmm, sorry I am not gypsy literate, is the GB->Tcase shaft OE on all gypsies? Interesting setup.
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Gypsy is the only offroader in India which comes with OE 4 WD. All others are optional.

Best part is gearbox and t-case are divorced. you can fit any engine/ gearbox on gypsy , but you need to do jugglery with Propeller shaft

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.. is the GB->Tcase shaft OE on all gypsies?...
Yes, svsantosh, on all Gypsies, and all 4WD vehicles with a divorced transfer-case.
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This is probably just the 'shell' of the dashboard. make sure you also get all the other smaller plastic parts required to complete the new look of the dashboard.
Trust me sir the person who is ordering the parts will get it down to the exact nut and bolt accoding to the parts catalouge. So if Mr. WBD is saying 1200 then it would be around that. Let's take at even 2k. IT wouldn't be for a rupee more than that.


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All the above should cost approx 15k

But the major expense would be on -

Wiring harnesses - 20k which should be changed in such a detailed project
Tyres -30k
Well wiring harness should be changed if required. Since it was a running car without problems shouldn't really matter if its the same wiring and the insulation over it is redone. After all wiring is not a perishible item or something that is dicy. It either works or it doesn't. No third option. None the less the main wiring was replaced. So a saving of 10k.

Tyres depending on what he chooses. IF its Yokohama then yes 5.5k each is what he is looking at but if he chooses JK then i guess only 3.5k ? So its either Rs.27,500 or its Rs.17,500. So let's take an average of 25k ?? We save 5k here ?

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Paint Job for a really good one - 20k
Starter - 6k
Alternator - 6k
Well paint job it depends on what the colours are so the cost will be depending on that. If he goes in for a pearl finish colour then its expensive other wise quite reasonable.

Since Mr. WBD mentioned that this was a running car and only the body was sold. All the complete mechanicals and electronic components like the ecu and sensors were there. So again a saving of 12k.


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Labor for the entire job including servicing of the eng and gb- 20k
Gearbox is completely fine. The engine has been rebuilt completely. So we can say that parts came for about 8k and 7k labour. We save another 5K here.

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Braking system all parts - 5k
The car did come with the brakes and everything working but then it would be fair to take 5k including parts and labour for the same.

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Ignition coil - 2k
Car was running, hence it was included so we save another 2k.

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Battery - 5k
Gypsy uses the same battery as the 800 AC, Zen, Esteem, Swift petrol, Ritz petrol nothing more special for it. You can get a good exide battery with 18months warrenty for about 2.5k. We save 2.5 k further ??

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All belts and cables - 2k
Gypsy has only belt apart from that drive the alternator and water pump.
apart from that you have the Timing belt which would come under the head of engine overhaul. So that one belt would max taking a huge margin Rs. 300/-

There is only one speedometer cable. I guess that could go along with the belt to the misc account as well? So it would be right to say that we can save the full 2k.

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All mounts - 3k
Upholstery - 10k
3K is perfectly alright for all the mounts.

For the Upholstry, if we were to get the existing seats reformed with it would cost max 5k. And another 2k for carpetting if at all. No one does it since it will be used as a daily drive and off roader. 3K still saved if not 5k but i'd take it at 3k.

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Miscellaneous believe me many other things will come up - 10k
The misc items and prices are as follows-

1). New Gypsy radiator - Rs. 2500
2). New gas filled shocks- Rs. 2200
3). Belt - Rs. 300
4). Misc bulbs, nuts,bolts,washers - Rs. 1000

I would say saving of 4k. But then let's give the Devel its dues and take it as 10k only.

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All this assuming the ecm, engine and gb is in very good condition.

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Engine rebuilt. Gearbox perfect and since it was a running the ECM was definately working.


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So that's a total of approx 3.75L and that believe me will be a great value for money and above all...effort!! because what you will have will be a brand new Gypsy at a 35% discount.
1).If you re-read the first page, Post no. 15, the car was bought complete and running with papers for 1.25lacs. The body was sold sepeately so some money was recovered from that. A very negligible but still. i would say max 10k. So 1.10lacs on a very higher side.
2). 90k including all taxes the complete shell was bought for. So that makes it 2lacs for a complete car in all respects but not 100% running.
3). We take the engine overhaul at 15k makes it 2.15lacs with labour.
4). Clutch+clutch cable+ all 6 propellor shaft couplings etc on the drive train - Another 6k on the outside. 2.21lacs
5). New bumpers, lights, grill lenses,bulbs - 4k on the outside 2.25lacs
6). suspension bushes+ shocks - 3k 2.28lacs
7). Paint 20k 2.48 lacs
8). Brake components - 5k. 2.53lacs
9). laminated front windshield+ moulding with labour - 2k. 2.55lacs
10). Upholstry and reforming considering 2 front seats and 2 rear seats.- 5k. 2.60lacs
11). New engine bay wiring - 10k. 2.70 lacs
12). Misc incl. new dash,water pump belt, speedo cable, coolant, distilled water,filters,door rubber,door glasses,door pads etc Rs. 10k. 2.80lacs

13). Yoko tyres - 30k. 3.10lacs
14). Misc labour charges for painting differentials, anti rust cost on chassis and underbody etc. 5k 3.15lacs
15). Petrol for running in the engine on the bench and then on the road - 2.5k. 3.175lacs
16). Battery - 2.5k 3.20lacs
17). 3k for new fuel tank.
18). 2k for still something i missed above.

So you get a completely new MPFI car at a 50% discount. Its a superb deal. Some items could have been saved from the above and others added so would roughly be the same if not lesser.


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Just FYI when i did my restoration project on the ex army gypsy (which was not focused on body work, only 10k max on mostly paint as the body was not rusted at all) i spent 1.25L on mechanicals over and above the vehicle acquisition cost and it was a carb so no electricals related costs were involved.

You can find more details here - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...-complete.html (My Army Spec "Demon Gypsy": Project Complete)

Wow that's some amount to spend on a carb gypsy only on mechanicals. I would definately be visitng your thread soon and give my feedback.




I have been observing this project very closely and keenly from the begging like Mr. WBD, the car is now in the final stages of completion. It should be out painting the town red very soon.

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So you get a completely new MPFI car at a 50% discount. Its a superb deal. Some items could have been saved from the above and others added so would roughly be the same if not lesser.


Wow that's some amount to spend on a carb gypsy only on mechanicals. I would definately be visitng your thread soon and give my feedback. .

Getting a new Gypsy under 3.5L is a good deal for sure.

Yeah the 1.25 included the registration, tyres and AC which was the biggest chunk, rest of the stuff has also been documented on the thread.

Unfortunately i dont have that Gypsy any more. Have built another MPFI now.

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The gypsy got completed a long time back, it is still at the workshop as the owner cannot make up her mind (yes her !) over the type of seating/top configuration she wants to have. Pending items are - Seats,tyres,top and some minor fittings.

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The gypsy got completed a long time back, it is still at the workshop as the owner cannot make up her mind (yes her !) over the type of seating/top configuration she wants to have. Pending items are - Seats,tyres,top and some minor fittings.

Uploading some pics.
Thats some serious effort taken and the end result is just great .
More so the effort and patience counts more when the owner is "HER " .

Any updates on the seats / tyres and the other pending things ?

On second thoughts , mind sharing a lot more pics of WIP ?
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Hats off for this project....
Hoping to see the final pics of the restore .I am planning for one like this for myself back in Bangalore.
Awaiting for the final pictures and review of the project.

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