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Old 4th August 2017, 18:35   #121
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Fantastic thread, Tejas. Went through it in one go. I had a Pajero and now you have brought it all back to me, including what all I could have done but didn't have the knowledge to! Perhaps will get one soon and follow in your footsteps.

Wonderful work. What a Pajero!
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Finally took the plunge and got the suspension overhaul.

The car had done 99750kms and was time to replace the shocks. So went the full hog and got the Ironman Lift Kit.

Kit contains 4 nitrogas shock absorbers, 2 coils and 2 torsion bars.

I didn't want to do the lift and the torsion bars will be at stock setting.

Got a sweet deal from Zac of Ironman India and picked the kit up at pre GST rates in June but got time to install it only two weeks ago.

Waited to test it out on two offroad excursions and highway runs before putting up my review.

Here's the kit:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-04a-full-set-shock-boxed.jpg

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-01-coils.jpg

The Torsion bars:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-03tb.jpg

Left and right are clearly marked and should not be interchanged:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-02-tb-marked.jpg

The individual coil (also marked driver and passenger):

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-04-coil.jpg

Stock Coil:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-05-stock-coil.jpg

Vehicle on lift at the Sanjay Raj Mitsubishi Service Centre at Marol, Mumbai:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-06-lift.jpg

With the tyre removed, you can clearly see the old shock and coil:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-07-tyre-removed-rear.jpg

The old shock absorber removed:
Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-08-old-shock.jpg

The axle drops as soon as shocks removed and needs to be supported from below: (they used a drum)

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-08a-old-removed.jpg

The new and old spring. Height is the same, the spring rate is different:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-09-old-new-spring.jpg

Attaching the spring compressor to fit the coil: (2 are used per spring)

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-10-coil-insertion-tool.jpg

Inserted:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-11-coil-inserted.jpg

Removed the tool:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-12-coil-inserted-tool-removed.jpg

The coil and the shock:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-13-coil-shock.jpg


Both Coils:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-14-both-coils.jpg

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The new shock absorbers have a longer travel.

So the stock brake pipe was just right for stock suspension and in case i had both rear wheels drop into a crevice or ditch during offroad, i had a sure shot chance of ripping the pipe off.

Old pipe:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-15a-brake-pipe-old.jpg

So had to source a longer brake pipe:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-15b-brake-pipe-new.jpg

Even rear brake pads were replaced in the same sitting.

The old rear linkage bushes were torn and tearing:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-15c-rear-old-linkage.jpg

Got new ones fit as well:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-15d-new-linkage.jpg

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-15e-new-linkage-fixed.jpg


Front old shock absorber:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-15-front-suspension.jpg

New one fit:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-16-front-shock.jpg

Remember, the shock absorbers have to be tightened fully to recommended torque only after the vehicle is back on the ground and the shocks get loaded. Zac was always on the phone with me guiding me and seeing pics on whatsapp of every step to make sure everything is getting done correctly.

Last to be fit are the torsion bars:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-fixing-torsion-bars.jpg

With tyre in place:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-16a-front-shock-tyre.jpg

Since the tyres were already off the rim, i got a rotation done as well according to the following formula:

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Since the guy who does balancing at the workshop wasn't in that day, got the balancing done at Mahim:

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The mechanic at the workshop was an old hand at the Pajero SFX and pro and got to learn a few things about the vehicle.

Here's an underbody shot:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-underbody.jpg

The front differential has an aluminium cover with fins for heat dissipation:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-fron-dif.jpg

There are slots in the skid plate to aid this:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-slot-skid-plate.jpg

The brake bias spring. As the weight in the rear increases, the spring activates a valve and extra braking force is applied to the rear. Precursor to EBD?

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-brake-bias-spring.jpg

The Pajero has stock build in diff breather tubes. The tube goes from the dif to a cross pipe in the chassis:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-dif-breather.jpg

The pipe is hermetically sealed with plugs at both ends and the pressure stabilises here without any issue: (same for front). So no need to run long pipes to the engine bay.

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-plugs.jpg


Did you know that the Pajero has more than 9 greasing points?

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-greasing.jpg

There are also nearly 6 places from where brakes need to be bled. Most outside workshop people only know of 4 and miss 2 near the brake bias valve.

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The behaviour of the vehicle after the install is superb!

Tackles rough roads like they didn't exist.

Body roll is less but could have been lesser (probably due to the load on the roof).

Some pics from a recce we did for an event:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-img_2618.jpg

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-img_2634.jpg

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At one point the car slid down 4 feet and hit a tree hard:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-slide.jpg


I thought, "there goes my rear corner bumper." Was quite shocked when i saw that the plastic part was just scratched a bit and a 1% deformation on the top curved inside area:

Mitsubishi Pajero SFX - Project Overland Conversion-hit.jpg

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Great upgrade. A lot of interesting and useful information about the small but critical things like brake bleeding points. Really helpful. Thanks for sharing. My Pajero just crossed 95k too, perhaps I need to look at my shocks and springs too. Do share Zac'c details and the cost of the Ironman kit if if possible. Wish you all the best for the next 100k kilometres.
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Great upgrade. A lot of interesting and useful information about the small but critical things like brake bleeding points. Really helpful. Thanks for sharing. My Pajero just crossed 95k too, perhaps I need to look at my shocks and springs too. Do share Zac'c details and the cost of the Ironman kit if if possible. Wish you all the best for the next 100k kilometres.
Thanks.

I got a pre GST deal where dealer wanted to liquidate as much stock as possible.

I suggest you contact Zac directly for current pricing.

Now the next question is why Ironman?

I had the following options available in India to choose from:

- TJM
- Ironman
- OME

TJM were price wise value for money but online reviews were mixed (I always refer to Aussie forums for Pajero related product reviews). Honestly i was tempted but they weren't in stock for a month or so and thus made my choice not to go with them easier. Plus, the pros of ironman that are listed further down in this post.

OME, great stuff from a well known company, ARB. Online reviews say it was more suited for offroad and on road ride being a bit jarry. With my usage being more on the road and plus a heavy price point made me look away here as well. I did have an option to import them directly (a fried could have carried it), but these are the following reasons i finally chose Ironman:

- Local dealer with years of goodwill and i've never heard of any complaint against him
- Warrantee honoured in India
- And the clincher was that a buddy on mine has done 1 lakh kms on his Pajero GLX on this suspension and the vehicle is as good as new.

The pre GST deal just made it sweeter.

NOTE: I have no special obligation to promote Ironman in return for any favour. I value my integrity more and this is an honest opinion.

Next point why the Nitrogas shocks.

They also have foam cell shocks which are much better.

Two reasons:

Nitrogas shocks will fade a bit on sustained long hard drives and need a bit of cooling down. Ofcourse they are better than stock shocks but this fade is caused by cavitation (reduced to a high extend by N2) and is unavoidable in any brand. There are many youtube videos explaining this phenomenon.

The foam cell ones are designed to overcome the above issue.

However, the ride is hard on an unloaded vehicle and the dealer himself said if you are not going to be towing a trailer and carrying more than 200kgs at the rear he would not recommend them to me in interest of better ride quality.

Plus the price is also much higher.

Thus, the choice of nitrogas shocks and medium load springs.
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Any contact details for Zac if you can share please.
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Any contact details for Zac if you can share please.
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Hi Tejas, many congratulations for the Ironman upgrade. I took the same in June from Zac and it does show the difference in the ride and handling departments.

Happy Motoring!!
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