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Old 18th March 2008, 20:52   #31
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There is no way the Montero will be priced below 25-30L even if it's manufactured locally forget CKD.

With the tax impositions and the Indian auto industry it cannot happen. If CKD were to reduce the cost by that much then why is the Audi A4/Merc C/ BMW 3 still priced at 35L?
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I see quite a few new ones in Bangalore now ( after the price rationalisation sometimes back )
I am noticing quite a few in Bangalore as well. I too think that it should be priced from 12 to 15 lakh. 18 lakh is on the higher side but right now there is no diesel options in this range. When the Fortuner comes out, it will be a different Story. If they launch a GV in diesel it will be a strong competitor for the Pajero too.
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I love the non-morphed looks of this car sans the paint-job, which demands to be in 2-tone allright, but in a different scheme.

I would have loved to see a CRDi engine in this. It does not matter that the car is old, if it still works great.
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I am noticing quite a few in Bangalore as well. I too think that it should be priced from 12 to 15 lakh. 18 lakh is on the higher side but right now there is no diesel options in this range. When the Fortuner comes out, it will be a different Story. If they launch a GV in diesel it will be a strong competitor for the Pajero too.
No way can Fortuner or new GV beat a Pajero, petrol or diesel. Those are soft roaders unlike the Pajero.
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No way can Fortuner or new GV beat a Pajero, petrol or diesel. Those are soft roaders unlike the Pajero.
Fortuner is a body on Frame truck with three diffs including a locking center differential. It will be as capable as a pajero.

GV is not a Soft Roader. It is just not a body on Frame type vehicle, but a uni-body construction like the Montero 3.2 or the Jeep Cherokee. It is not based on a car platform like other softroaders (CRV is based on the Civic platform). It comes with a fully functional 4x4 system with a low range transfer case.

Pajero is a very competent off-roader but let us not kid ourself, it is no way the most capable off-roader out there.

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Pajero is definately overpriced for being such an old vintage. Mitsubishi may get their mini Pajero to Indian Market, which will be welcome whiff of fresh air for smaller off road vehicles.
I am posting a photo of that vehicle parked in front of an airport(Photo of the drive is not that clear.)
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Old 18th March 2008, 23:59   #37
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Guys, don't forget that hardly 1% of SUV owners in India ever take their trucls off-road. And that is even more true for people buying SUV's priced in the 15L & above bracket.

Just food for thought: Even though the Cayenne/Touareg are very competent off-roaders & have sold pretty decently in India, how many have you actually seen going off-road?
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Guys, don't forget that hardly 1% of SUV owners in India ever take their trucls off-road. And that is even more true for people buying SUV's priced in the 15L & above bracket.

Just food for thought: Even though the Cayenne/Touareg are very competent off-roaders & have sold pretty decently in India, how many have you actually seen going off-road?
i agree. the 4x4 sticker is for a lot of people to show that they have the cash to BUY it - just not the HEART to actually take the 20lakh+ vehivle where it should actually go! in the dirt!!
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GV is not a Soft Roader. It is just not a body on Frame type vehicle, but a uni-body construction like the Montero 3.2 or the Jeep Cherokee. It is not based on a car platform like other softroaders (CRV is based on the Civic platform). It comes with a fully functional 4x4 system with a low range transfer case.
Actually GV chassis is uni-body welded onto a ladder frame, getting the best of both world. But there is no point in defending GV, you can't change perception by arguing. As long as Palio remains the best hatch, GV remains the soft-roader.

Back to Pajero. I had a very close look at it in Vaahan Yatra, just opposite JBL stall. It has a very old style, more like early 90s or late 80s look, who makes SUVs like that even now? If somebody is paying 22L (in Karnataka), at least it should look good. If one doesn't care about off-road ability (most don't), they are better off with Captiva or CRV. I shied away from Pajero for 3 reasons, (1) the looks, (2) the price & (3) that Look at that Price.
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Guys, don't forget that hardly 1% of SUV owners in India ever take their trucls off-road. And that is even more true for people buying SUV's priced in the 15L & above bracket.

Just food for thought: Even though the Cayenne/Touareg are very competent off-roaders & have sold pretty decently in India, how many have you actually seen going off-road?
. Those gentlemen with flashy expesive 4x4s wouldn't even take their babies out on open highways, leave alone slush and gradients.

I clicked this photo being in the lead jeep, and this jeep following me on my trailblazing.
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Dunno about the Mini Pajero, but I would love to get my hands on the old short wheel base Pajero (same generation as the Pajero being sold in India).
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Dunno about the Mini Pajero, but I would love to get my hands on the old short wheel base Pajero (same generation as the Pajero being sold in India).

That is the three doored mini Pajero! I had driven it and loved it for its' manuverability.
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Actually GV chassis is uni-body welded onto a ladder frame, getting the best of both world. But there is no point in defending GV, you can't change perception by arguing. As long as Palio remains the best hatch, GV remains the soft-roader.
You better keep a fire extinguisher ready after that comment

The Pajero is OK, probably the best offroader in the 15-25 lakh range, but it still cannot justify its pricetag. Its is a good thing they are still sticking with relatively high profile 15'' tyres instead of 16''s.
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I clicked this photo being in the lead jeep, and this jeep following me on my trailblazing.
intersting photo, major sandeep...
and interesting terrain too,..
btw, where was this pic taken??
DR Congo?
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. Those gentlemen with flashy expesive 4x4s wouldn't even take their babies out on open highways, leave alone slush and gradients.

I clicked this photo being in the lead jeep, and this jeep following me on my trailblazing.
hey susan,

where was this pic taken - thats one of our trusty mahindras on un duty isin't it?

going by the rain and the jungles - not africa so, se asia somewhere maybe?

my dad's ex army as well and i use to love it when these spanking new gypsies, jeeps, 1.5 tonners etc would come barrelling down the roads all shiny in their white paint, with UN emblazonned across the sides!

cheers.

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