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Old 19th March 2008, 08:57   #46
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IMHO, the only real competitor to the Pajero is the Endeavour. Both are big and have similar sized diesel engines. In Mumbai, a similar spec Endeavour is selling for not much less than the Pajero. So, I don't see any reason why the Pajero seems a bad choice. Having driven both vehicles, I would go for the Pajero. It's a better car in almost every respect, both on road and off road. The Endy has more modern interiors and a more powerful engine. Those are the only areas where the Pajero is beaten. That said, the Pajero's old engine is still more drivable than the Endeavour's. The yellow colour sucks, but, some of the other shades are quite good. The car still looks good and has loads of presence.
The CR-V is great on the road - ride, handling, power, equipment. But, it looks ugly and with no diesel option, is not economical to run. Off the road, it's useless.
The GV looks nice and is a good balance between on road and off road driving, but, there's no diesel option and it's not really selling well.
Both, the CR-V and GV are in a different class to the Pajero.
HM has just one dealer in Mumbai and that's a big put off for everyone. But, overall, the Pajero still remains high on my wish list.
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When somebody buys a luxury sedan/SUV, there is an expectation of impreccable service. At least 3 star quality if not 5 star quality. How is A.S.S for Mitsu products in India, especially Pajero? I don't remember it mentioned anywhere.
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When somebody buys a luxury sedan/SUV, there is an expectation of impreccable service. At least 3 star quality if not 5 star quality. How is A.S.S for Mitsu products in India, especially Pajero? I don't remember it mentioned anywhere.
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HM has just one dealer in Mumbai and that's a big put off for everyone.
That one dealer is Metro Motors. They don't sell Ambassadors, just the Mitsubishi range. I haven't heard any Mistu owners complaining, but, even then, I'll say Mitsubishi A. S. S. won't be as good as Maruti's.
Companies like Nissan, Audi, BMW, etc. don't have more than one dealer / service centre either. They sell cars that are much more expensive.
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Talking about service, this is one of the reasons why I prefer the pajero. Nothing to do with the HM Dealers but there were plenty of pajero's in the grey market before HM launched it so most big cities have one or two specialist indipendent shops that specialize in imports/pajeros. Electra in chennai for example will source the parts for you from Asia cheaper than what HM charges.

When I was in chennai a few months back, I saw a grey market pajero 2.8 with it's automatic transmission dismantled in Electra. The Electronic Control unit for the transmission had failed and the dealer will not repair it since they don't fix automatics in the HM version. Kamlesh was going to sources the parts from Malaysia/Singapore etc. Similar care with an E-Class with a burt out ECU. Merc dealer wanted 1.5 lakhs to replace the ECU so the owner had it towed to Electra.
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When somebody buys a luxury sedan/SUV, there is an expectation of impreccable service. At least 3 star quality if not 5 star quality. How is A.S.S for Mitsu products in India, especially Pajero? I don't remember it mentioned anywhere.
Not being mentioned could be quite good. People tend to talk a lot more when they are dissatisfied. I remember reading somewhere that Lathangi in Bangalore provide good service for Mitsu products. Maybe some of the Cedia owners on the forum can chime in.
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any particular reason for the 2 tone paint job on the pajero??
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any particular reason for the 2 tone paint job on the pajero??
Yeah. The design head of HM hit his head against the wall one day on the way into the office. Ever since he thinks that:

1. 15 in Rims are better than 16 inch when the rest of the world has moved to 16 inch rims.
2. Most buyers prefer gaudy paint schemes to standard ones. Glad the rest of the auto industry has not got this fever yet.
3. CRD Engines are technologically backward.
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Default So where does this leave the Outlander?

Now, all this work & re-work on the Pajero makes me think that the much-awaited soft roader, the Outlander, is still a few years away.

Else why flog another avatar of the Pajero now??
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Outlander is confirmed for a Oct/Nov launch this year Suman. And this comes from very reliable sources.
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When somebody buys a luxury sedan/SUV, there is an expectation of impreccable service. At least 3 star quality if not 5 star quality. How is A.S.S for Mitsu products in India, especially Pajero? I don't remember it mentioned anywhere.
Lathangi in bangalore provides satisfactory service for my Lancer. No complaints and no appreciation. They are good and better than Southern motors here.

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That one dealer is Metro Motors. They don't sell Ambassadors, just the Mitsubishi range. I haven't heard any Mistu owners complaining, but, even then, I'll say Mitsubishi A. S. S. won't be as good as Maruti's.
Addy, HM-Mitsu now has 3 dealers and 3 service centres. The new one is Autodrome and the 3rd one is metro motors now at new bombay as well.

Thinking of trying one of them out when i go there next week.
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I think they are playing around with the paint job & make overs till the time they launch the outlander.

But still I feel that if they place it below 15 lakhs, The Endy & Safari VX buyers will not think twice to grab it.
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That is the three doored mini Pajero! I had driven it and loved it for its' manuverability.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the mini Pajero was a different model (looked somewhat like a Gypsy). The pic i had posted was that of the SWB Pajero, which is essentially the same as the Pajero being sold in India with a shorter wheel base.

A pic of the Mini Pajero:
http://www.jsc-trading.com/show_pict...7&picture_id=a
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There was a big article on SFX in "cars and bike' section in HT today. But its still over priced and not VFM despite the added new features ( as the article mentioned - the differences between CRZ and SFX). Hope they launch Outlander soon.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the mini Pajero was a different model (looked somewhat like a Gypsy). The pic i had posted was that of the SWB Pajero, which is essentially the same as the Pajero being sold in India with a shorter wheel base.
You are absolutely correct. The pic is of the SWB Pajero 2.8. The mini pajero is a different animal. It came in 2 and 4 door versions:

http://www.japanrider.com/blogphotos/PajeroMiniSide.jpg

It was also called the Pajero/Shogun Pinin:
Mitsubishi Pajero iO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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hey susan,

where was this pic taken - thats one of our trusty mahindras on un duty isin't it?

going by the rain and the jungles - not africa so, se asia somewhere maybe?

my dad's ex army as well and i use to love it when these spanking new gypsies, jeeps, 1.5 tonners etc would come barrelling down the roads all shiny in their white paint, with UN emblazonned across the sides!

cheers.
That is our trusty Mahindra doing UN duty. And that too in Africa(surprised)!

I was in DRC for 1 year plus and enjoyed every bit of it.
This particular photo has been clicked around 50kms south of the equator deep in the jungles.

I am posting another photo of the same region. This particular patch had a Toyota Land Cruiser stuck very badly, while our M&Ms sailed out. I may attribute the stuck up Toyota on poor skills of the driver.

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intersting photo, major sandeep...
and interesting terrain too,..
btw, where was this pic taken??
DR Congo?
Yes, That is DRC.

Mods: Please merge this with my earlier post as I am yet to figure out the correct way.

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You are absolutely correct. The pic is of the SWB Pajero 2.8. The mini pajero is a different animal. It came in 2 and 4 door versions:

http://www.japanrider.com/blogphotos/PajeroMiniSide.jpg

It was also called the Pajero/Shogun Pinin:
Mitsubishi Pajero iO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. The Vehicle which I mention was a 3 door version with Pajero written on the driver and co-drivers' door.
I will search for more photos and post them.
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