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Old 6th August 2008, 12:34   #346
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Oops! Sorry guys, I had selected some posts from this thread and deleted a spam post from another thread. However, all got deleted with a warning note. My apologies to those who got the PM from this thread. I have reinstated all posts.

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Old 6th August 2008, 13:02   #347
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I moved the entire overheating discussing here: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...blem-jeep.html

It was overheating this thread.
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Old 6th August 2008, 14:01   #348
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Yup, we are supposed to understand " How to live with a CL340 or similar jeep .." not discuss apparent overheating problems or go OT.

Thanks sharat for starting a separate thread!
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Old 7th August 2008, 14:49   #349
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Samurai (and other jeepers), do these Jeeps come with seat-belts ? If not, is it possible/easy to have seat belts fitted ?

Asking because my cousin had an accident in his Jeep last week. On a ghat road he lost control of the Jeep (steering tie-rod broke or something) and he rammed into the mountain-side, resulting in serious injuries to him and his Dad who has sitting in the front passenger seat.

His head struck and shattered the windscreen - lost lots of blood and ended up with 9 stitches on his forehead. He also got hit in the lower stomach by the steering wheel. His Dad got hit between the jaw and throat due to hitting against the jeep on impact leading to a serious cut.

If they had seatbelts (their Jeep did not have) on, a lot of the above injuries would not have happened.
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Old 7th August 2008, 14:57   #350
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resulting in serious injuries to him and his Dad who has sitting in the front passenger seat.
Very sorry to hear about this. Its incidents like these that really do highlight the need to ensure these Jeeps are upgraded with basic safety equipment. I would also urge fellow offroad enthusiasts to equip their machines with a roll bar especially when offroading
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Samurai (and other jeepers), do these Jeeps come with seat-belts ? If not, is it possible/easy to have seat belts fitted ?
SB, extremely sad on hearing about the accident. Hope your cousin and his dad are fine now.

99.5%+ of the jeeps that I have seen in OTR's don't have seat belts.

However, Samurai's jeep did have seat belts and I did see him using the seat belts during the Coorg OTR.

I don't think it is rocket science to get seat belts installed in jeeps. should be very easy.
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Very sorry to hear this news.

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Samurai (and other jeepers), do these Jeeps come with seat-belts ? If not, is it possible/easy to have seat belts fitted ?
When I first saw my Jeep, it didn't have seat belts, side mirrors, wipers or soft top. I told Jammy I can't drive unless I have all those fitting in, so he installed them in the next one week before I took delivery. I always use seat belts whether I am in Santro, GV or Jeep. In fact, I was one of the rare guys in Coorg OTR who wore seat belts even while off-roading.

Seats belts can easily installed in Jeep. Considering there is absolutely no other safety feature on the Jeep, the importance seat belts in Jeep can't be overstated. The logic that Jeeps are slow is wrong, you can get seriously hurt even at 20kmph collision.
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Samurai (and other jeepers), do these Jeeps come with seat-belts ? If not, is it possible/easy to have seat belts fitted ?
Extremely simple. Mount the belt mechanism on the roll bar and the buckle between the front seats. Neck restraints and a sturdy roll bar are two other must-have safety fixtures for SWB Jeeps.

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Considering there is absolutely no other safety feature on the Jeep, the importance seat belts in Jeep can't be overstated.
If you crash a Jeep at 50kph or below, chances are that your Jeep will not have suffered any damage at all. The other car will be finished. My brother has crashed my Jeep into a Padmini and a Sumo. The bull bar hasn't even been repaired and looks stock. I have been rear-ended by a school bus and the only repair required was a thousand rupee job for straightening out the tail gate.

However, at speeds above 50 - 60 kph, the CJ is dangerous. My knees sit an inch away from the sharp (pointy) dashboard and any collision, I am afraid, will break my knees on the spot. Thats one of the reasons why I never use the Jeep for highway runs. It is best within the city or for low speed off-roading.
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My knees sit an inch away from the sharp (pointy) dashboard and any collision, I am afraid, will break my knees on the spot.
And it does not have a collapsible steering column. The steering road is one long spear - literally. Probably 1/2 or 3/4 inches near the steering end, and 1 1/2 - 1 3/4 inches in diameter.
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SB, sorry about your cousin and his dad. Hope they are on their way to recovery. YEah I agree that seatbelts are very very important.

Thats what saved me and nitrous while my gypsy flipped. Though it was a very slow flip at say 10 kmph or so!
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Ok, while we are on the subject of seat belts:
  • What's the cost of new and good after market seat belts
  • Where to get them in Bangalore
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Around 1200 bucks per side.
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My cousin and uncle are recovering at home after a 2-day hospital stay. The Jeep had just come back from the garage after renovation/repairs and now it has serious damage to the front - estimate 15K.

Must check out what model Jeep it is next time I get a chance. Never thought about that even though I was in it once. Not a 4x4 would be my guess.
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If you crash a Jeep at 50kph or below, chances are that your Jeep will not have suffered any damage at all. The other car will be finished.
meaning no crumple zone, which in turn means all the energy will be transferred to the passengers. that's dangerous.
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I am likely to get the Jeep back from the shop today, while it is there I was wondering is there anything else I need to get checked.

Say, gearbox and transfer case, I have never had them checked. Are they serviceable items or they are to be left untouched until they give trouble?

While it is in the Mahindra authorised garage, is there something else I can ask them to inspect or service?
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