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Old 28th August 2008, 15:14   #16
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that defenitely cant be the Gypsy king, this has to be the MG410.
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Old 28th August 2008, 16:13   #17
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Unhappy MG 410W in the disguise of a King.

Hi All,

Here's the latest update, I visited the dealer and was eager to see the SUV. After reading all the posts, I was cautious while checking the vehicle.

The first and foremost thing I asked the dealer was "Is this a Normal Gypsy or a Gypsy King ??? ". He was affirmative on Gypsy King, when I told him that Gypsy Kings have a small hump on the bonnet to accomodate the 1.3 L engine, he was speechless, After looking at the vehicle, I had no 2 thoughts that it was a MG 410W. I could not get an idea about the model year as the registration book was not there with the dealer.

Anyway after getting disheartened, I asked him about the price of the vehicle, he was fixed at 3.5 lacs because according to him an aftermarket aircon job was done, alloys were added, the canvas top was modified, the vehicle was recently painted, additional fog lamps were added etc etc.

I decided to put the conversation to an end because there was no point in explaining him that the vehicle's price was too steep.

The IInd Gypsy which I checked was a 95 model, 2nd Owner Hard Top MG 410W. It was fitted with LPG kit but endorsement on the RC book was not there.

This itself was a signal for me to keep away from it. Apart from this, the vehicle was litterally a piece of rattling Junk, parts falling down now and then, engine struggled to reach 50 kms even on petrol, Rusted panels etc etc. After a test drive of 25 - 30 minutes, when I finally asked the guy for the price, his reply was 1.5 lacs.

How on earth can someone quote such an absurd figure for a vehicle which is running on its last set of bolts ????

Here's me searching again for my offroader...
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Here's me searching again for my offroader...
Sabareesh,

The search for a good 4WD is always tough. Some points.

1) Stay away from cosmetic modifications.
2) Stock condition with basic 4WD is always better.
3) Check how serious the owner about his vehicle, you can check
This by asking specifications about the vehicle.
4) Make sure about the quality of Re-Painting. Some re-Paint for the sake
of selling it. This can hide a lot of body Dent/Damage/Rust.
5) Take an extensive test drive on/off the road. And listen for all the
rattling and suspension noises. Some noise will get suppressed when you
drive only on highway. Do engage the 4WD if you have a chance
6) Not very important, but check the electricals (Lights Wiper Indicator
Etc)
7) Last but not least, carefully check the RC book.

Anyway we canít expect a showroom condition from a used vehicle, But the goal is, how we can minimize the efforts of correcting all these problems after purchasing it. In my case, fortunately it was in a great shape. Till now, I did not do anything apart from changing the oils.

All the best and happy hunting...

PS: I am going to test drive a gypsy this weekend for Sachinnayak.

Thank You
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Old 29th August 2008, 12:34   #19
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Beefed up and pimped up 410W without a doubt

As others have said on this thread, I

1.GYP KINGS come with a hump on the bonnet.
2.They have a different front radiator grille.
3.Check under the hood what sort of engine is there - you get two types the older carburettor driven 1.3L engine (same as old Esteem) and the newer MPFI 1.3L engine (same as newer Esteem) - Since you say 2007 Gypsy, then it should have 1.3L Mpfi engine only.

Please take a qualified mechanic with you and check - OR take the seller with you on a Test Drive to a decent Maruti Dealership/ Workshop and show the seller that he cannot befuddle/ hoodwink you with ill informed - quasi- techno-babble which he undoubtedly has tried to do!

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My search for a 4x4 brought me to an automotive website which had a Gypsy listed for sale.

According to the specs given on the site, the vehicle is a Gypsy King 2007 Model, Soft Top, fitted with Air con. It has covered 21,000 kms. The price quoted is 3.5 lacs.

Now I am really confused whether this is a Gypsy king of a beefed up MG410W.

Please help me to find a solution for this... Photographs attached....




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Old 29th August 2008, 15:04   #20
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I am sure it is not a 2007 model, probably 2007 re-registered from another state. What a con !!!!
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All 3 gypsys for Two Lakhs Thirty Thousand or each ??
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Old 29th August 2008, 17:43   #22
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Sabareesh,

The search for a good 4WD is always tough. Some points...
All the best and happy hunting...

PS: I am going to test drive a gypsy this weekend for Sachinnayak.

Thank You
--Sree--

Thanks for the pointers Sree, will definately keep them in mind while searching for a SUV.

I have been searching for a decent JEEP or Gypsy for quite sometime but have not found even one which is decent enough till now. Lets see till when this search continues.

Cheers

Sabareesh

@egangsta,

Where was this auction held ? Please do keep me posted about such auctions in future. I would love to pick up an ex-army MM540, 550 or Gypsy. I have heard that one can find them in pretty decent shape and a reasonable price.

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All 3 gypsys for Two Lakhs Thirty Thousand or each ??
For all Three Gypsy's

@ Sabareesh. I myself came to know yesterday night when my friend called me to see the Trailer. Will keep you updated. Check your PM.

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For all Three Gypsy's

@ Sabareesh. I myself came to know yesterday night when my friend called me to see the Trailer. Will keep you updated. Check your PM.
Sorry to bother you, and I know this must be off-topic, but how much did the Nissan go for? Any idea?
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3.5 lac is extremely expensive. look for another one.
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1.GYP KINGS come with a hump on the bonnet.
2.They have a different front radiator grille.
3.Check under the hood what sort of engine is there - you get two types the older carburettor driven 1.3L engine (same as old Esteem) and the
Add to the above:
4. Wider track - visible in wider flare fenders (metal not plastic)
5. 5 speed gearbox

Of course the MPFI engine is clearly visible but the carburetted one requires an expert opinion but asmentioned I doubt any one will go through the trouble of swapping the gearboxes.
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Old 11th February 2010, 18:39   #27
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that is a Normal Gypsy. maybe that con man has named his junk as 'king'. heheh
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no this is not a gypsy king it is MG410
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