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Old 1st February 2009, 21:19   #1
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It is a Peugeot alright, but different from a 540DP and also an XD3P.
Notice the breather pipe coming out from the front end of the tappet cover rather than from the centre and quite a few changes overall also notice the box kind of thing below the oil filter. the ridges on top of head (between nozzles) are missing, breather pipe goes back into engine, etc etc.
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It is a Peugeot alright, but different from a 540DP and also an XD3P.
Notice the breather pipe coming out from the front end of the tappet cover rather than from the centre and quite a few changes overall also notice the box kind of thing below the oil filter. the ridges on top of head (between nozzles) are missing, breather pipe goes back into engine, etc etc.
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That seems to be a XD2 which is 2.3ltr 70bhp engine. The box kinda thing below the oil filter is oil cooler. and the breather pipe connected back to intake manifold is nothing but crankcase ventilation not letting the blow-by gases into the atmosphere. this engine must be an import if am not wrong.

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Indenor-Peugeot Diesel??
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That seems to be a XD2 which is 2.3ltr 70bhp engine. The box kinda thing below the oil filter is oil cooler. and the breather pipe connected back to intake manifold is nothing but crankcase ventilation not letting the blow-by gases into the atmosphere. this engine must be an import if am not wrong.
No idea about the orign, but thanks for the rest of the very helpful info can you add for which vehicle was this one used? and the advantges of this over XD3P.
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Indenor-Peugeot Diesel??
No idea Sir Alec, You need to enlighten me, I need all the help.One thing is, it is smooth as silk (nearly).

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Guys I picked up this engine and it sounds heaven, it looks so much more refined in build quality than the XD3P and 540, need to know the origin , if it is an import or was it used for Mahindra export vehicles.
Where are the biggies who I am counting on to enlighten me?
further, I am also including the punched numbers on the head JS 29767 AA is punched on the front end and at the middle it is ST17586.
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1> I reckon it is from a 80s Puegot 504 car.That could explain the design characteristics of the motor.
2> In terms of being more refined and also the fact that it has a flat oil cooler.
3> There was also mention of one such engine by Patrik from Chennai which he claimed to have seen at the wreckers.
4> I also remember him mentioning it was fitted to the Armadas supplied to the army and that it was removed from one such vehicle.
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Guys I picked up this engine and it sounds heaven, it looks so much more refined in build quality than the XD3P and 540, need to know the origin , if it is an import or was it used for Mahindra export vehicles.
Where are the biggies who I am counting on to enlighten me?
further, I am also including the punched numbers on the head JS 29767 AA is punched on the front end and at the middle it is ST17586.
All the best,
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122 views and only 4 replies????
Guys I picked up this engine and it sounds heaven, it looks so much more refined in build quality than the XD3P and 540, need to know the origin , if it is an import or was it used for Mahindra export vehicles.
Where are the biggies who I am counting on to enlighten me?
further, I am also including the punched numbers on the head JS 29767 AA is punched on the front end and at the middle it is ST17586.
All the best,
Yes Fazal, what Jammy said is true. but not from 80s, still beyond. it is from 70s puegoet 504 GLD or from ford sierra. and yes it is XD2 as i pointed out earlier. And here goes the spec of your engine found on internet.

1974 Peugeot 504 Diesel
Bore × stroke 94.00 mm × 83.00 mm 3.7 in × 3.27 in
Cylinders S-4
Displacement 2.3 litre 2304 cc (140.599 cu in)
Type OHV
Overhead inlet side exhaust
2 valves per cylinder
8 valves in total Construction Sump
Compression ratio 22.20:1
Fuel system Roto-Diesel fuel inj.
Maximum power
(DIN) 71 PS (70.0 bhp) (52.2 kW) @ 4500 rpm
Specific output 30.4 bhp/litre 0.5 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque (DIN) 131.0 Nm (97 ft·lb) (13.4 kgm)@ 2000 rpm
bmep 714.5 kPa (103.6 psi)
Specific torque 56.86 Nm/litre
Maximum rpm
Manufacturer Peugeot Code Main bearings 5 Coolant Water Bore/stroke ratio 1.13 Unitary capacity 576 cc/cylinder Aspiration Normal D. Compressor type N/A Intercooler None Catalytic converter N

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1> I reckon it is from a 80s Puegot 504 car.That could explain the design characteristics of the motor.
2> In terms of being more refined and also the fact that it has a flat oil cooler.
3> There was also mention of one such engine by Patrik from Chennai which he claimed to have seen at the wreckers.
4> I also remember him mentioning it was fitted to the Armadas supplied to the army and that it was removed from one such vehicle.
Cheers
Jammy
Jammy,
Thanks, looks like I am zeroing on it. By any chance do you have an idea of it's cubic capacity? like it is mentioned 2300cc by one of our members to a reply on this thread. What is your overall view if I put it in a MM540?
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Yes Fazal, what Jammy said is true. but not from 80s, still beyond. it is from 70s puegoet 504 GLD or from ford sierra. and yes it is XD2 as i pointed out earlier. And here goes the spec of your engine found on internet.

1974 Peugeot 504 Diesel
Bore × stroke 94.00 mm × 83.00 mm 3.7 in × 3.27 in
Cylinders S-4
Displacement 2.3 litre 2304 cc (140.599 cu in)
Type OHV
Overhead inlet side exhaust
2 valves per cylinder
8 valves in total Construction Sump
Compression ratio 22.20:1
Fuel system Roto-Diesel fuel inj.
Maximum power
(DIN) 71 PS (70.0 bhp) (52.2 kW) @ 4500 rpm
Specific output 30.4 bhp/litre 0.5 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque (DIN) 131.0 Nm (97 ft·lb) (13.4 kgm)@ 2000 rpm
bmep 714.5 kPa (103.6 psi)
Specific torque 56.86 Nm/litre
Maximum rpm
Manufacturer Peugeot Code Main bearings 5 Coolant Water Bore/stroke ratio 1.13 Unitary capacity 576 cc/cylinder Aspiration Normal D. Compressor type N/A Intercooler None Catalytic converter N
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A billion thanks, it was taken off a Ford Sierra , a white station wagon I saw. no wonder it runs so smooth, what is your view can this be mated to a Bolero 5 foward, 4WD gearbox? The info you gave is very valueable for me. Thanks again.

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A billion thanks, it was taken off a Ford Sierra , a white station wagon I saw. no wonder it runs so smooth, what is your view can this be mated to a Bolero 5 foward, 4WD gearbox? The info you gave is very valueable for me. Thanks again.
Yes, for sure it is better than DP engine in terms of refinement. and also they were mated with BA7 and BA10 GBs. Since bolero came with BA10, i feel it shouldn't be an issue. but unlike DP engine, it could be difficult to source the spares which are specfic to XD2 since they never came to india in bulk.
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Are you sure that it is not an imported XD3P? Sure looks like that.
I just picked up XD3T, which is the turbocharged version of the XD3P. Will post some pics soon.
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Sorry, it is definitely an XD2. Just found out that my engine is an XD2S.
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Sorry, it is definitely an XD2. Just found out that my engine is an XD2S.
Jyobeb,
What is the spares status for these engines in India and the difference in your XD2S and XD2 ?
Since you have presumably been using this engine can you tell me about it's performance in comparrison to 540DP or XD3P and lastly which vehicle do you have it on and which gearbox?
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Oh yes! what is the BHP? Star Aqua's internet pull up posted here does not show it.

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Jyobeb,
What is the spares status for these engines in India and the difference in your XD2S and XD2 ?
Since you have presumably been using this engine can you tell me about it's performance in comparrison to 540DP or XD3P and lastly which vehicle do you have it on and which gearbox?
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Oh yes! what is the BHP? Star Aqua's internet pull up posted here does not show it.
XD2S is a 80bhp turbocharged version of XD2 (70bhp).
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The XD2 has the same bore as the XD3P but different stroke. It sadly is not the dry liner type. Most of the small parts will be the same as the XD3P, including things like the water pump, heater plugs, injectors etc. Even the pump is a Bosch unit which is similar to the Mico unit. You will probably run into problems only for an engine overhaul.
The XD2S was the first turbo diesel in Europe and is about 80 bhp. I will take it to about 90bhp with inter cooling. The engine is going into my MM550 with the KMT90 box for now, till I source the adapter housing which is essential to mate the BA10 with the Borg Warner transfer case that I have procured.
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