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Old 6th July 2009, 23:33   #106
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Baleno engine in gypsy. Sounds interesting. Waiting for a feed back so that i can also upgrade my gypsy king mpfi.
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Old 7th July 2009, 01:27   #107
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Can someone throw some light on how difficult is it to install the baleno engine in the Gypsy shell?
Mandeep & Shubendra, can you please get some engine bay pictures of the Gypsy with Baleno engine?

I am installing the 1.6l engine in my 410W along with 5 Speed King's GB

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-te...-mg-416-w.html (Project MG 416 W)

Any pictures / suggestions/ guidance will be of great help.

Cost of engine is 30-45k for engine alone in Chennai( availability is an issue)
ECM and wiring harness will cost another 15k.

I got an entire Baleno for the project
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Amar, I would say if you can find an engine do it now. Get it done once and for all. Do it right the first time One restoration cycle might wear you enough that I guess you might not feel like going for the engine swap later.
I agree with that because its a long process and calling people in india every now and then for small small things is very painful task.

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Plus I dont think you are in a hurry to get the jeep done so you have time till your next visit to Punjab so it might be worth the extra effort. BTW when are you visiting India next?
Well i am going to india last week of august which is exactly 6-7 weeks from now. But i want the gypsy to run atleast 2 weeks in a row to check for any defects so i have a month to fix engine.

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Cost of engine is 30-45k for engine alone in Chennai( availability is an issue)
ECM and wiring harness will cost another 15k.
Mandeep can you punch in some figures about the cost and also the availaibilty in and around delhi-punjab.

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Old 7th July 2009, 07:11   #109
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Baleno engine in gypsy. Sounds interesting. Waiting for a feed back so that i can also upgrade my gypsy king mpfi.
There are quite a lot of them running on Baleno engines. They are christened 416. Search for them on the forum.
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Old 7th July 2009, 15:21   #110
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There are quite a lot of them running on Baleno engines. They are christened 416. Search for them on the forum.
I would say that MG416 is a myth (from my search results. )

every one who tells about 416 either has heard of it or or just driven it.
No bhpian got this myth in his garage ?

And those who have seen or driven it never dared to peep under the hood.

Pdev said that he got 3 or 4 416s in his group.
Now Mandeep says that he has driven the myth.

Come on guys.. be factual and post some details

hope that this provocation will work
I desperately need inputs for my 416 project.
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Now Mandeep says that he has driven the myth.

Come on guys.. be factual and post some details

hope that this provocation will work
I desperately need inputs for my 416 project.

hi,i will definately try my best to give a detailed layout but the gypsy i drove was in chandigarh,and i know of someone who does these swaps in shimla and his work is phenomenal, he does coil set up also and workmanship is brilliant.i will try to get as much detail as i can real soon.

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stick the original engine of your gypsy and get a FFE, K&N and you add another 10-15 bhp to your gypsy!
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i know of someone who does these swaps in shimla and his work is phenomenal, he does coil set up also and workmanship is brilliant
Mandeep can you please PM me the details about this guy, better yet if you can post them here on the forum it will be great.

I have some friends in Shimla and will try and see if something works out I might start a restoration project of my own
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stick the original engine of your gypsy and get a FFE, K&N and you add another 10-15 bhp to your gypsy!
Parm: You may get 10% increase in power not 10BHP more.
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Parm: You may get 10% increase in power not 10BHP more.
O yaar 10% of 80 bhp is 8 bph!! get light weight pulleys and shed some weight of the gypsy and it will surely increase power to weight ratio!
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stick the original engine of your gypsy and get a FFE, K&N and you add another 10-15 bhp to your gypsy!
I don't think i have a choice as i am running out of time 1 month left to fix the whole Gypsy.The stuff still on plate is:

1) First coat of the paint was done and then putty was applied again, final coat will be done 2 days from now.

2) All the plastic,rubber parts including dasboard will be ordered. I have been telling them to pre-order it before hand but they think it will be available on the shelf (I doubt).

3) I talked to the garage guy and he told me stock engine will be re-build in 2-3 days.

4) Assembling engine and GB and changing altenator to more powerful one.

5)A.C + music system installation. I already had bought Sony player + alpine amp + pioneer 12" woofer. Pic of palyer is attached.

6) Alloys and tyres will be done when i reach there, should be just an hour job.



So will stick with stock setup for now and will start another upgrade project next year which will include:

1) 1.6 Engine Swap
2) Coil Setup
3) Fibre air tight cabin (Liked the way Vaibhav has done)
4) Tonneau for the rear cabin

BTW what is FFE?
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BTW what is FFE?
FFE is a Free Flow Exhaust! Sir.
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Doesn't FFE becomes annoying in long drives when speed is more then 100km/hr?
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2) All the plastic,rubber parts including dasboard will be ordered. I have been telling them to pre-order it before hand but they think it will be available on the shelf (I doubt).
Welcome to the world of we know best. I had similar problems with my reply when asking the guy to re-cover the seats whilst the other work was going on. Got the usual replies like the seats will get dirty....leaving me thinking who said I wsa going to get them get the covers done and fit them in the car when mechanical work was outstanding. I could easily take the seats home.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a workshop somewhere that could multitask and listen to customers. Can you imagine a desi version of Overhaulin? Would take them a year to finish the car.
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Wouldn't it be great if there was a workshop somewhere that could multitask and listen to customers.
Well what was that about wishes and horses and all zat?

When givin the car for the denting painting etc, you should have yanked out the seats and carried them over to the seat experts who would have done that for you.
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