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Old 23rd December 2009, 18:08   #91
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I have the same question as Jaggu. Details of failure would be much appreciated. I have booked a 4wd Scorpio and hence the interest.
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Old 23rd December 2009, 21:09   #92
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I've got a 2006 4wd, that's now clocked 82,000 km. And I've put the 4x4 to some pretty serious usage, at NCR OTRs, Jaisalmer dune bashing, and Ladakh. Yes, it's not as robust as the jeeps, but it gets you out of trouble when you need it.

There are two weak spots in the whole set up. 1. The auto-locking hubs, which can slip/break on extreme torque. And 2. The solenoid for the 4x4 shifter is exposed, under the body. So if you shift when it's submerged in water, there are chances of it shorting (at least that's what I think).

I've always played it safe and shifted before getting into the water or an extreme climb.

Secondly, on has to be patient with it. Shifting to 4L or back to 4H from 4L requires a 6 second wait for the whole blink blink to finish. If you are in a hurry, it can jam.

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I am thinking of covering the whole solenoid system with Denerol or some similar rubberized paint which should keep the water out to a large extend. What do you guys think of this idea??
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Old 23rd December 2009, 23:04   #94
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I am thinking of covering the whole solenoid system with Denerol or some similar rubberized paint which should keep the water out to a large extend. What do you guys think of this idea??
Might work.

There is another product that would be good. Silicon putty or paste. You can get it in better hardware shops. It comes in a tube like a big tooth paste tube and also applies with about the consistency of tooth paste but hardens into a rubbery mass in about two minutes when air hits it. Good for sealing holes, too. It comes off readily as well. It is good to play with this stuff a little first to get an intuitive ideas how to put it on and how to deal with it before you try it on something important. Put the cap back on the tube quickly because the silicon will harden at the tube mouth quickly when it hits the air, ruining the tube.
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Silicon putty or paste.
Right. That's the same stuff used to paste windscreens on. Sets pretty quickly inside the tube too, shelf life is a little better if stored in a refrigerator. Perfect material to waterproof electrical connections. I'll give it a shot at the next service too (don't want to crawl underneath the car any more to do it )
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Does anyone has a picture of the exposed solenoid?
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A lot of members have bought mHawk 4WD, with even a AT 4WD in the midst. But I am yet to see a 4x4 usage report.
Have any of you used the mHawk 4x4? If yes, where? How was the performance off road?
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But I am yet to see a 4x4 usage report.
Have any of you used the mHawk 4x4? If yes, where? How was the performance off road?
Here's the link to the Trail Blazing #2 thread, where I was checking out the 4x4 mHawk off-road for the first time: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...ml#post1571901 (SUV Xplore - Trail Blazing 2 (Nov 8th 2009)). And here (3C's (Car, Camera, Corbett) minus 3C's (Cellphone, Clinics, Classes) = Peace) is where the Hawk-on-fours went inside Corbett - not absolute 4wd territory, but off-road nonetheless.

Hope this helps.
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@tsk:

There was a Refresed Scorpio 4x4 that took part in the Munnar OTR. The vehicle was able to do everything the MM540s and CJs did.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...ml#post1634917 (R&T Extreme 4x4 - Dec 12th -13th)

The tires were upgraded to MTs.
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There was a Refresed Scorpio 4x4 that took part in the Munnar OTR. The vehicle was able to do everything the MM540s and CJs did.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...ml#post1634917 (R&T Extreme 4x4 - Dec 12th -13th)

The tires were upgraded to MTs.
4x4A: That looked like a non-VLX (i.e. non-mHawk-engined) Scorpio Refresh (with the 2.6 CRDe engine). The smallpox stickers seem to be missing, as also the "powered by mHawk" badge on the front fenders. Could you please check & confirm?
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It is said that the Xylo has more road stability than Scorpio. Xylo's Anti Roll bars are well designed. Statistics show, Xylo is high moving in the market.

Mahindra should concentrate on making Scorpio more stable.
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4x4A: That looked like a non-VLX (i.e. non-mHawk-engined) Scorpio Refresh (with the 2.6 CRDe engine). The smallpox stickers seem to be missing, as also the "powered by mHawk" badge on the front fenders. Could you please check & confirm?
i think its the mHawk engine buddy. look at the bonnet scoop. the mHawk has a wider scoop than the 2.6 CRDe. the stickers maybe missing because it maybe a scorpio SLE.

yes, but why is the "powered by mHawk" badge missing?

second case can be that now in refresh scorpios, even 2.6 CRDe gets the same scoop as the mHawk.
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i think its the mHawk engine buddy. look at the bonnet scoop. the mHawk has a wider scoop than the 2.6 CRDe. the stickers maybe missing because it maybe a scorpio SLE.

yes, but why is the "powered by mHawk" badge missing?

second case can be that now in refresh scorpios, even 2.6 CRDe gets the same scoop as the mHawk.
Yes - the Refresh is the new body style, mHawk is the engine. SLE 4x4s with the Refresh body come with the 2.6 CRDe engine. The only Refresh body that comes mated to an mHawk engine is in VLX specs.
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It is said that the Xylo has more road stability than Scorpio. Xylo's Anti Roll bars are well designed. Statistics show, Xylo is high moving in the market.

Mahindra should concentrate on making Scorpio more stable.
hey which statistics? scorpio easily outsells the xylo.

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Yes - the Refresh is the new body style, mHawk is the engine. SLE 4x4s with the Refresh body come with the 2.6 CRDe engine. The only Refresh body that comes mated to an mHawk engine is in VLX specs.
oh yes, i forgot that. the 4x4 is still available with CRDe engine & 4x4 is available only in VLX with mHawk engine. you are right.

i think they call the 4x4 2.6 CRDe scorpio as SLX & not SLE.
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It is said that the Xylo has more road stability than Scorpio. Xylo's Anti Roll bars are well designed. Statistics show, Xylo is high moving in the market.

Mahindra should concentrate on making Scorpio more stable.
It is said by whom? Read the sales figures posted in the main section. Scorpio far outsells the xylo.

@SS: You are right. This is the Refresh Scorpio SLE 4x4 with the 2.6 CRDe engine. But to answer Tanweers question on the off-road capability of mhawk, The engine shouldn't make that much of a difference. If anything at all the lighter engine should make it more capable than the 2.6 CRDe. The suspension set up is the same except for the damping settings.

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