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Old 6th July 2009, 01:26   #16
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E denoted eight seater
same was Omni E
Are you sure?
even the 5 seater hard-tops used to have this 'E' tag.
Ashwar87's Gypsy was a 5 seater Gypsy E which is nw a 2 seater.

Correct me if I am wrong
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Are you sure?
even the 5 seater hard-tops used to have this 'E' tag.
Ashwar87's Gypsy was a 5 seater Gypsy E which is nw a 2 seater.

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AFAIK E denoted eight seater version.
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Hey guys which engine is powerful the 2112 peugeot or the XDB.And BTW XDB is a mahindra engine or borrowed from other manufacturers.

I guess there is another engine XD? Am i right
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Hey guys which engine is powerful the 2112 peugeot or the XDB.And BTW XDB is a mahindra engine or borrowed from other manufacturers.

I guess there is another engine XD? Am i right
XDP 4.90 = 2.1 L 62 BHP indirect-injection diesel
XD3P = 2.5L 72.5 BHP indirect-injection diesel. Same engine in the 550 XDB.
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Gypsy models, Mile stones & their Differences

Dec 1985 Introduction of Gypsy MG410

July 1993 Track width increased by 90mm (from 1210mm to 1300mm for front wheels and from 1220 mm to 1310mm for rear wheels) - Gypsy MG410W

April 1995 Introduction of catalyser and fuel cut system in vehicles to be sold in four metros

June 1996 Introduction of Gypsy King 1.3L - front hood and front grille change Head restraints provided on front seats Fabric seat upholstery- Gypsy King MG413W (Carburated)

March 2000 1.3 L engine upgraded to 16 V MPFI Introduction of brake booster - Gypsy King MG413W ( MPFI)


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Old 10th July 2010, 13:59   #21
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Guys how to find the difference between NGCS and old MM550's
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Joshguy, the simplest way by which you can make out a NGCS from a non NGCS vehicle is by observing the spring eye widths. The spring eye width of a NGCS vehicle is wider compared to a Non-NGCS one. Attaching a pic for more clarification.

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PS- There are many other differences, this being one among those many.
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Hey spike: Do you know if NGCS was ever sold to civilians or only to Army?
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Hey spike: Do you know if NGCS was ever sold to civilians or only to Army?
AFAIK, NO, I may be wrong. I haven't seen any civilian versions of NGCS 5X0s.

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Let me try and act as if I know something here.

To begin as already confirmed with there is no MG416 - its just a model concocted by members. Its for a Gypsy with a 1.6 Baleno engine. A pretty mean mix I am led to believe.

CJ/CL340 is (SWB) Short Wheel Base Chassis. CJ was pre 70s and naming convention changed to CL post 70s. Not sure which year exactly.

MM540 - came in both 2WD and 4WD. DP engine which is 2112cc with a 4 speed Gear box.
MM550 - is not bigger, is always a 4WD and has a 2.5L XD3P engine. with a 5 speed Gear box.
MM5x0 are what I personally call RWB (Right Wheel Base)
MM440 - is the same base as the 540 with a Petrol engine. IIRC - Only 4x4versions.

MM650 is (LWB) long chassis (longer than MM540) This also came in 4x4 versions.
MM750 is longer than 650. Pure people movers.

There!

Iron wolf pretty known areas for you I feel these are. Thanks, pretty useful information.

Btw,how about Mahindra CJ 500 (consider the model year is 1984). Is it the model which has been there in market for long time ( i mean, the most sold model, and obvious choice of police jeeps as far I seen in kerala)

Did it have both 2wd and 4wd. How about the cc and gearbox. Is there a specific way we can identify that it is real CJ500 only, for eg like the company etched name or so on engine block or on the specification plate can we rely on which is usually found near the ignition key on right next to steering column. When did they launch CJ500 and till when was it available. Can you give a brief on CJ500 jeeps, the major pro's an con's of the vehicle, and in case I am about to purchase and use it for mild off roads too.

Attaching the photo in case. First time trying this option.

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About some Willys Jeeps & Ford GPW's:
1. The jeeps that are pre-1980, are most probably original Willys, but out of them; very few are having original Go-Devil 2112cc (Side Valve) Petrol Engine. Their bonnets used to be engraved with WILLYS or JEEP.
The Go-Devil engines were of 2199cc capacity.

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2. For GPW Vehicle means Ford General Purpose War Vehicle, these were also used to have a Go-Devil 2112cc (Side Valve) Petrol Engine. Some of them also used to have Side Valve 2496cc Hurricane engines. Their bonnets & windshield portion below the wipers used to be engraved with FORD.
The GPW never had the Hurricane engine, and the Hurricane is also 2199cc not 2496cc. No Ford engraving on the bonnet/windscreen either. The GPW actually stood for
"G" - Government
"P" - 80 inch wheelbase vehicle
"W" - Willys (to denote the Willys design which they ended up using)

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MM540 - came in both 2WD and 4WD. DP engine which is 2112cc with a 4 speed Gear box.
MM550 - is not bigger, is always a 4WD and has a 2.5L XD3P engine. with a 5 speed Gear box.
MM5x0 are what I personally call RWB (Right Wheel Base)
I guess the MM550 came with 2112cc (the Voyager engine) and not 2500cc ones.

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540/550 difference has to do the with the theoretical seating capacity for excise duty purpose and has nothing to do with the power train. The power train is typically identified by the characters that follow the 550/540 ie. (DP, XD, XDB).

@josh: Only the XD and XDB came with the 2.5 engine. Civilian ones are extremely rare to find. I have seen only three on this forum, Sree's, Viji's & Devi (chennai jeeper). All army versions come with the 2.5. The voyager had the 2.4 and not 2.1 engine. Think there is some difference in the oil pan in the voyager XD3P (not sure of this thought).

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540/550 difference has to do the with the theoretical seating capacity for excise duty purpose and has nothing to do with the power train. The power train is typically identified by the characters that follow the 550/540 ie. (DP, XD, XDB).

@josh: Only the XD and XDB came with the 2.5 engine. Civilian ones are extremely rare to find. I have seen only three on this forum, Sree's, Viji's & Devi (chennai jeeper). All army versions come with the 2.5. The voyager had the 2.4 and not 2.1 engine. Think there is some difference in the oil pan in the voyager XD3P (not sure of this thought).
So all Army and 540s have 2500cc engines? BTW Tini what is the difference between XD and XDB

Thanks for the info
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So all Army and 540s have 2500cc engines? BTW Tini what is the difference between XD and XDB

Thanks for the info
There is no "Army 540" They are 550s. yes they have 2498cc Peugeot XD3P engines, with KMT-90 Transmission

XD = 2.5 ltr engine + KMT-90 4Speed Gearbox.
XDB = 2.5ltr engine + Peugeot BA-10, Fully Synchro 5 speed Gearbox.

There are lot of other difference like Hydraulic clutch etc....

Hope this helps

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