Go Back   Team-BHP > Buckle Up > 4x4 & Off-Roading > 4x4 Vehicles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 15th March 2011, 09:02   #16
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,042
Thanked: 13,483 Times
Default Re: Offroad Rims/Tyres Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR View Post
I asked this not because of Thar, there is a SWB Bolero with MDI engine available - Bolero LX BS-III, I hope you are aware.
What is this Bolero SWB model? I don't see it documented anywhere. What is the wheelbase of this SWB model, and it is available in 4WD?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudarshan View Post
OK , but I have just commented ,then how can you agree before even I say something ?
He is referring to some Raju Bhai, not you.
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 09:11   #17
Senior - BHPian
 
SPIKE ARRESTOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Deutschland
Posts: 2,653
Thanked: 679 Times
Default Re: Offroad Rims/Tyres Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
What is this Bolero SWB model? I don't see it documented anywhere. What is the wheelbase of this SWB model, and it is available in 4WD?
This is the precise reason for my post, I knew people may not be aware of this model. WB is same as Bolero SLX / Storm, (105.5 " IIRC), it is available in 4WD with DI engine without PS & AC (IIRC)

Quote:
He is referring to some Raju Bhai, not you.
Raju bhai is none other than Sudarshan Vaidya Sir

Spike
SPIKE ARRESTOR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 09:30   #18
BANNED
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,201
Thanked: 821 Times
Talking Re: Offroad Rims/Tyres Thread

Ahh , finally the discussion is at a right place , Thanks samurai .It must be a tiring work for you support team ( keeping all the action & show together & also under control )


Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR View Post

Raju bhai is none other than Sudarshan Vaidya Sir
Raju bhai is gentleman when he is Sudarshan Vaidya ( Is he ? )

Anyway , jokes apart

Spike bhai please explain this 5 mm front suspension travel , its very confusing .

Sudarshan
Sudarshan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 18:06   #19
vak
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cochin
Posts: 47
Thanked: 43 Times
Default Re: Offroad Rims/Tyres Thread

[quote=SPIKE ARRESTOR;2278508]This is the precise reason for my post, I knew people may not be aware of this model. WB is same as Bolero SLX / Storm, (105.5 " IIRC), it is available in 4WD with DI engine without PS & AC (IIRC)


Dear Spike,

I enquired at TVS, they said they dont have any information on Bolero LX 4wd with Di engine. They also said if you want 4x4 in Bolero with Di engine then the only option is Bolero DI 4wd.


PS: Shackle at the rear of a 4wd Bolero is shorter than that of a 2wd Bolero like SLX or SLE. The leaf spring design is also different, I believe it is to cope with the additional torque generated in 4wd low. I will give you the exact measurements and pictures of the shackle once I reach home, I am travelling right now.
vak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 20:01   #20
Senior - BHPian
 
SPIKE ARRESTOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Deutschland
Posts: 2,653
Thanked: 679 Times
Default Re: Offroad Rims/Tyres Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by vak View Post
I enquired at TVS, they said they dont have any information on Bolero LX 4wd with Di engine. They also said if you want 4x4 in Bolero with Di engine then the only option is Bolero DI 4wd.
I am somewhat surprised to hear this, I saw a few of them last month also. Let me check again.

Spike
SPIKE ARRESTOR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2011, 13:56   #21
BHPian
 
offroad_maniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Thane-Mumbai
Posts: 453
Thanked: 35 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

HI Spike,
With LX 4WD Bolero, are you referring to 4WD Invaders?
Same wheelbase as Bolero SLX but with reduced rear overhang?
But the chassis is different?

BTW, Invaders/ Strikers has rear SPoA setups?

Also below site does not contain all the required info about mentioned model, so these models are specialyy made for Govt? Police etc??
offroad_maniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2011, 20:35   #22
Senior - BHPian
 
jeepster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: MH24 aka LATUR
Posts: 1,521
Thanked: 941 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by offroad_maniac View Post
With LX 4WD Bolero, are you referring to 4WD Invaders?
Same wheelbase as Bolero SLX but with reduced rear overhang?
But the chassis is different?

BTW, Invaders/ Strikers has rear SPoA setups?

Also below site does not contain all the required info about mentioned model, so these models are specialyy made for Govt? Police etc??
i think he is referring to 4x4 invaders.

invader has smaller WB than bolero & also has longer overhang.

yes chassis different . (due to WB , overhang & shorter body)

no, invader/striker have SPuA setup. (spring under axle)

all mm pickups using SFRA axle have SPoA setup.
all mm pickups using FFRA axle have SPuA setup.

its a specially planned publicity scheme by mahindra to misguide buyers so they can invistagate & learn more about their products. (some times with a little help from consumer court.)

rgds,
Nikhil

Last edited by jeepster : 16th March 2011 at 20:38.
jeepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2011, 20:53   #23
Senior - BHPian
 
SPIKE ARRESTOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Deutschland
Posts: 2,653
Thanked: 679 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by offroad_maniac View Post
With LX 4WD Bolero, are you referring to 4WD Invaders?
Same wheelbase as Bolero SLX but with reduced rear overhang?
No, I am talking about a Bolero. WB is~ 93.5" IIRC

Quote:
BTW, Invaders/ Strikers has rear SPoA setups?
Invaders Yes! not sure of Strikers though.

Quote:
Also below site does not contain all the required info about mentioned model, so these models are specialyy made for Govt? Police etc??
Possible, but I am sure, coz I've seen them


Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
i think he is referring to 4x4 invaders.
No!

Quote:
no, invader/striker have SPuA setup. (spring under axle)
Invader has SPoA setup at rear.

Quote:
its a specially planned publicity scheme by mahindra to misguide buyers so they can invistagate & learn more about their products.
Good one, let me propose this!

Spike

Last edited by SPIKE ARRESTOR : 16th March 2011 at 20:58.
SPIKE ARRESTOR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2011, 22:28   #24
vak
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cochin
Posts: 47
Thanked: 43 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
i think he is referring to 4x4 invaders.

invader has smaller WB than bolero & also has longer overhang.

yes chassis different . (due to WB , overhang & shorter body)

no, invader/striker have SPuA setup. (spring under axle)

all mm pickups using SFRA axle have SPoA setup.
all mm pickups using FFRA axle have SPuA setup.

its a specially planned publicity scheme by mahindra to misguide buyers so they can invistagate & learn more about their products. (some times with a little help from consumer court.)

rgds,
Nikhil
Dear Jeepster,

I have seen many MM pickups with SFRA having SPuA setup. I shall try to get some pictues next time I go for service of my Bolero. SPoA comes in Flat bed MM pickups.


Vinshad Aziz
vak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2011, 21:09   #25
vak
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cochin
Posts: 47
Thanked: 43 Times
Default Pictures of Bolero 4wd Shackles

Dear All,

Please check the pictures of the front and rear shackles of my Bolero 4wd. The rear ones are shorter than those in a 2wd Bolero and the Leaf spring design is also different.

I also did a small articulation test to determine whether fitment of bigger tyre like 31-10.5-15 will require a negative offset wheels or may be wheel spacers. The result is yes, because there was only one inch clearance inside the wheel arch at the rear with the OE tyre. And under extreme articulation bigger tyre will definitely touch the inside of wheel arches.
Attached Thumbnails
Info on Bolero mods-1.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-8.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-4.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-2.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-3.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-5.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-6.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-7.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-9.jpg  

Info on Bolero mods-10.jpg  

vak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2011, 21:41   #26
Senior - BHPian
 
jeepster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: MH24 aka LATUR
Posts: 1,521
Thanked: 941 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

thanks for the pictures.

IMO you can add shackles 1 inch longer than stock. (front & rear respectively)

because your bolero is new you just have to buy longer shackles & fit them. (no bushings & removing u clamps stuff)
simple one hour bolt-on job.

if you dont like the on/off road handling of your bolero you can reverse back to old/stock set up any time.

rgds,
Nikhil

EDIT: i will be doing shackle overhaul tomorrow will up date on my thread. (with longer shackles)

Last edited by jeepster : 20th March 2011 at 21:45.
jeepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011, 11:53   #27
vak
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cochin
Posts: 47
Thanked: 43 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
i think he is referring to 4x4 invaders.

invader has smaller WB than bolero & also has longer overhang.

yes chassis different . (due to WB , overhang & shorter body)

no, invader/striker have SPuA setup. (spring under axle)

all mm pickups using SFRA axle have SPoA setup.
all mm pickups using FFRA axle have SPuA setup.

its a specially planned publicity scheme by mahindra to misguide buyers so they can invistagate & learn more about their products. (some times with a little help from consumer court.)

rgds,
Nikhil

Not all MM pickups using SFRA axle have SPoA setup. Here are the pictures of a MM pickup using SFRA but with SPuA, and it is 4x4.
Attached Images
  
vak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th April 2011, 10:35   #28
vak
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cochin
Posts: 47
Thanked: 43 Times
Default Info on Bolero mods

I have fitted my Bolero with Geolander AT-S in 31-10.5-15 size. I have slightly re-cambered the front leaf springs and gained a lift of one inch.

Overall, the result after tyre change is a gain of good ground clearance, now the under the diff clearance stands at 225mm.
Attached Images
      
vak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th April 2011, 12:34   #29
Senior - BHPian
 
SPIKE ARRESTOR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Deutschland
Posts: 2,653
Thanked: 679 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

How much change in Camber resulted in 1" lift? Is there any change in ride? Any change to shackle?

Spike
SPIKE ARRESTOR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th April 2011, 13:25   #30
BHPian
 
powertrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 572
Thanked: 374 Times
Default Re: Info on Bolero mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by vak View Post
I have fitted my Bolero with Geolander AT-S in 31-10.5-15 size. I have slightly re-cambered the front leaf springs and gained a lift of one inch.

Overall, the result after tyre change is a gain of good ground clearance, now the under the diff clearance stands at 225mm.
Is it just my P.C or are the pics not uploaded ??????
powertrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bolero XDP Engine Vs Bolero DI Turbo Red Liner What Car? 34 30th September 2015 21:37
My new Bolero Di 4x4 and its Mods vak 4x4 Vehicles 57 28th September 2014 20:24
info needed for baleno mods premdiv Technical Stuff 3 14th June 2006 18:46


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 05:23.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks