Go Back   Team-BHP > Buckle Up > 4x4 & Off-Roading > 4x4 Vehicles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 31st July 2009, 17:55   #1
BHPian
 
COUGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 538
Thanked: 83 Times
Default Battery goin dead... again and again...

Every time I leave my Gypsy all covered for a week, the battery is going dead. Atleast thats what i think has happened again today: i was trying to take him out for a spin and he just wouldnt crank. All the other electrical systems are working fine.

I last took him out on Friday for a 20 km drive (Kalyani Nagar and back) and he has been under the covers since. Surely the battery shouldnt be drained out so fast?

is the autocop system the culprit that is draining the battery?
COUGAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 18:04   #2
BHPian
 
abhijeetsng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 339
Thanked: 141 Times
Default

The alternator of your Gypsy has gone kaput. Get it changed and batteries will work fine!

Cheers,
Abhi
abhijeetsng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 18:10   #3
BHPian
 
whitemm550's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Margao goa
Posts: 348
Thanked: 62 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by COUGAR View Post
Every time I leave my Gypsy all covered for a week, the battery is going dead. Atleast thats what i think has happened again today: i was trying to take him out for a spin and he just wouldnt crank. All the other electrical systems are working fine.

I last took him out on Friday for a 20 km drive (Kalyani Nagar and back) and he has been under the covers since. Surely the battery shouldnt be drained out so fast?

is the autocop system the culprit that is draining the battery?
there has to be a leakage of current some where, had you altered any electrical system recently?, and yes the central locking does take a constant supply from the battery, but not so much that the Battery gets drained, also go to a battery dealer and try to check the battery/ starter / and alternator
whitemm550 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 18:12   #4
Team-BHP Support
 
bblost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 9,552
Thanked: 6,310 Times
Default

disconnect battery when not in use.

But first get the alternator checked.

Also go to any battery dealer who will use a voltmeter to take readings.
When engine off.
when engine on and idling
When engine on and under acceleration.

There are specific voltages that expected for each of the conditions.
bblost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 18:13   #5
Sha
BHPian
 
Sha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canberra
Posts: 539
Thanked: Once
Default

Do you use any powerful lights like Hella/Lightforce.
Sha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 19:51   #6
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NA
Posts: 1,217
Thanked: 20 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bblost View Post
disconnect battery when not in use.
This can cause problems in itself. If you are to leave your car for a week this may be ok but any longer and you should really invest in a battery maintainer.

The battery on our Tata 407 engine generator used to be a complete pain so we just attached an automatic trickle charger to the battery. This keeps the battery in excellent condition and not had a problem so far even after trying the battery after several months of non use. It draws very little current so not too costly to keep hooked up all the time either. Going to attach a few of these to the batteries on our inverters to stop the batteries failing.
bigman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 20:07   #7
gpa
Senior - BHPian
 
gpa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,734
Thanked: 216 Times
Default

Looks like your battery has gone kaput which is why it is not starting. It could also indicate a problem with the alternator. How old is the battery?

If you are leaving the car idle for a week, this should not happen (even if you leave the security system on) so it is best you get it checked as bblost has mentioned.
gpa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 20:11   #8
Team-BHP Support
 
bblost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 9,552
Thanked: 6,310 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigman View Post
This can cause problems in itself. If you are to leave your car for a week this may be ok but any longer and you should really invest in a battery maintainer.
I agree a trickle charger is the best thing for storing battery for long durations of time.

but will you not need to remove the battery itself and fix it to the charger.
Or can you connect the charger to the battery, while the battery is still in its place under the bonnet.

I would consider the latter as a bad choice.
bblost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 21:04   #9
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NA
Posts: 1,217
Thanked: 20 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bblost View Post

but will you not need to remove the battery itself and fix it to the charger.
Or can you connect the charger to the battery, while the battery is still in its place under the bonnet.
Yes you are rightr you should really remove the battery and then put on trickle charge but I know one guy who has some old relic and he leaves the battery in the car and puts the trickle charger on and has not had a problem with it for years.
bigman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 21:21   #10
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Kochi
Posts: 2,147
Thanked: 142 Times
Default

How old is the battery? If more than 24 months old, it may be signs of battery age.

It may be that the battery is not giving enough current / power for cranking (automotive batteries are designed to maximum power for short bursts). Sometimes, removing the battery and charging on a slow current over 48 hours (sometimes more), may help.
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 23:04   #11
Senior - BHPian
 
Nitin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,301
Thanked: 9 Times
Default

Would anyone you know have a spare battery ( in good working condition)? If yes, it might make sense to swap the batteries, and see how things work. Sounds more of an alternator issue from your description.
Also try cleaning out the terminals well. Most people use Pepsi/Coke to clean it, and then connect the wires back on.
Nitin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2009, 23:40   #12
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: in a Toyota!
Posts: 2,686
Thanked: 591 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by COUGAR View Post
Every time I leave my Gypsy all covered for a week, the battery is going dead. Atleast thats what i think has happened again today: i was trying to take him out for a spin and he just wouldnt crank. All the other electrical systems are working fine.

I last took him out on Friday for a 20 km drive (Kalyani Nagar and back) and he has been under the covers since. Surely the battery shouldnt be drained out so fast?

is the autocop system the culprit that is draining the battery?
you refer to your gypsy as "HE"??

alternator is not working to full capacity to charge your gypsy's battery!
Parm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2009, 01:09   #13
Senior - BHPian
 
Raccoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Poona
Posts: 1,832
Thanked: 105 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigman View Post
This can cause problems in itself. If you are to leave your car for a week this may be ok but any longer and you should really invest in a battery maintainer.

The battery on our Tata 407 engine generator used to be a complete pain so we just attached an automatic trickle charger to the battery. This keeps the battery in excellent condition and not had a problem so far even after trying the battery after several months of non use. It draws very little current so not too costly to keep hooked up all the time either. Going to attach a few of these to the batteries on our inverters to stop the batteries failing.
Where can one buy these chargers/trickle chargers? Any idea about cost? We really have aproblem with the automobile batteries due to varying and often infrequent use.

However, if the car is not used even for 7 - 10 days, it still starts up. Don't know how much the battery drains in that period (I intend to check on that soon) but at the car starts without issue. Battery is definitely over 2 years old... and the battery also has the Silicon Systems burglar alarm to support.
Raccoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2009, 08:52   #14
BHPian
 
COUGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 538
Thanked: 83 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parm View Post
you refer to your gypsy as "HE"??
yeah its either that or "drag queen"! a gypsy is too "male" to be referred to as she aint it?

I doubt that it is an alternator problem 'cos the last time this happened (4 months back), i had got the battery recharged externally and have taken it on numerous drives (400kms+ each time) and obviously the battery is getting recharged?

The battery is as old as the car: ie around 3 years old.
COUGAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2009, 08:57   #15
BHPian
 
COUGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Delhi
Posts: 538
Thanked: 83 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whitemm550 View Post
there has to be a leakage of current some where, had you altered any electrical system recently?,
well yes. i took out the old Sony CD player and replaced it with a newer JVC head unit and also put in a cigarrette lighter socket.

Someone was suggesting to me that instead of splicing wires at the battery end to get new power outs, i should consider buying some kind of a switch that plugs into the battery and provides power outlets for all the devices. Any gyaan on this?
COUGAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Indigo --battery light which stays on when start and RPM meter is dead virender Technical Stuff 11 17th July 2012 11:17
Indigo --battery Light on when start and RPM meter is dead virender Technical Stuff 1 12th April 2009 14:10
Goin to Benz showroom for DELIVERY OF C CLASS Vulken Auto Shifting gears 15 31st March 2005 14:50
Safari not goin CRDi maybach The Indian Car Scene 20 27th February 2005 21:33
Goin for a Holiday S350L-E240 Shifting gears 19 7th June 2004 17:24


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 20:52.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks