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Old 7th October 2010, 11:22   #211
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I had faced this problem many years back when getting AC fitted in my Gypsy. After trying everything (including the stuff you are thinking about now), there was only one way that worked.

Move the AC condenser to underneath the vehicle. The correct place is between the chasis rails towards the back. Downside is you will need to get the condenser power-washed once or twive every month.

Sorry the pics are from my cell phone.

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Old 7th October 2010, 19:06   #212
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Hey Ankit, Thanks for sharing those pics. That looks like a snug fit. No issues i guess even after you go offroading? Seems to be placed well. So for how long have you been running this setup?
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Move the AC condenser to underneath the vehicle. The correct place is between the chasis rails towards the back. Downside is you will need to get the condenser power-washed once or twive every month.
Thanks a lot for sharing these pics Ankit.
Whenever you find some time, while getting it pressure washed, could you please take more pictures and share it here. Would be very helpful!

@Desmo/Jaggu/Roy: This is exactly what i was talking about. Longer piping might reduce its effectiveness, i agree with Jaggu. Any other negatives you see?
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Old 7th October 2010, 19:58   #214
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there is a new rotaqry compressor in town
beaitiful for the gypsy
0 power loss
let me just get hold of the name and send it across to you tomorrow

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Old 7th October 2010, 20:33   #215
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there is a new rotaqry compressor in town
beaitiful for the gypsy
0 power loss
let me just get hold of the name and send it across to you tomorrow

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Hey Allan,
Thank you so much buddy!
Will wait for your reply about this new compressor. Is this also from Sanden?
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I think the new age cars including Swift runs rotary compressor?
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Old 8th October 2010, 12:15   #217
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Alan,Rotary compressor also will have power loss but very minimal in comparison with recip as the number of moving parts are only 2 or 3 so as the friction is less.Also silent and ofcourse more efficient.But not repairable.Even the size would be 30% smaller.please post the details.The latest invention for compressor is the most efficient Scroll type compressors.

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Old 8th October 2010, 14:49   #218
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Hey Ankit, Thanks for sharing those pics. That looks like a snug fit. No issues i guess even after you go offroading? Seems to be placed well. So for how long have you been running this setup?
I have had this setup for almost 5 years and no problems ever. Just need to get it washed after an OTR. I used to think that it will take longer for the AC to cool as now the setup was further away with longet pipes but never felt that in reality.

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Thanks a lot for sharing these pics Ankit.
Whenever you find some time, while getting it pressure washed, could you please take more pictures and share it here. Would be very helpful!
Starter - I have sold my Gypsy last month so will not be able to take any more snaps, sorry. I spoke to the new owner last week and he is still running the AC without any issues.

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Old 26th October 2010, 05:31   #219
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Jumping in with a slightly OT comment here. My stock Gypsy has now done 10k kms and is running like a dream! No AC, and no mods. I find that I can actually go a lot faster through city traffic...its like Moses and the Red Sea parting, people see a Gypsy driven with intent, and even the Bolero/Auto charlies don't mess with you! Its a real, real blast in city traffic!!
One question I don't think anyone has addressed, given the driving style in the city now, I find that it would be a good idea to relook at the stopping power. Has anyone done any brake system upgrades? I find the stock engine to be able to yield all the power needed for the city, the brakes now feel a little weak.

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Jumping in with a slightly OT comment here. My stock Gypsy has now done 10k kms and is running like a dream! No AC, and no mods. I find that I can actually go a lot faster through city traffic...its like Moses and the Red Sea parting, people see a Gypsy driven with intent, and even the Bolero/Auto charlies don't mess with you! Its a real, real blast in city traffic!!
One question I don't think anyone has addressed, given the driving style in the city now, I find that it would be a good idea to relook at the stopping power. Has anyone done any brake system upgrades? I find the stock engine to be able to yield all the power needed for the city, the brakes now feel a little weak.

Doesnt this come with a brake booster ex-factory? If you are interested, there is thread going on about brake upgrade for the Swift (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...gn-maruti.html (Swift Diesel - New Brake Booster Design By Maruti))

Dunno if the same can be used on Gypsy.

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Jumping in with a slightly OT comment here. My stock Gypsy has now done 10k kms and is running like a dream! No AC, and no mods. I find that I can actually go a lot faster through city traffic...its like Moses and the Red Sea parting, people see a Gypsy driven with intent, and even the Bolero/Auto charlies don't mess with you! Its a real, real blast in city traffic!!
One question I don't think anyone has addressed, given the driving style in the city now, I find that it would be a good idea to relook at the stopping power. Has anyone done any brake system upgrades? I find the stock engine to be able to yield all the power needed for the city, the brakes now feel a little weak.
Hey Sawyer,
Nice to know that you have completed 10K kms.
From my experience, i've never experienced the brakes to be weak.
Whenever i've jammed the brakes hard, i usually experience the wheels locking up.
So, at what speeds do you feel the stopping power inadequate?
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Jumping in with a slightly OT comment here. My stock Gypsy has now done 10k kms and is running like a dream! No AC, and no mods. I find that I can actually go a lot faster through city traffic...its like Moses and the Red Sea parting, people see a Gypsy driven with intent, and even the Bolero/Auto charlies don't mess with you! Its a real, real blast in city traffic!!
One question I don't think anyone has addressed, given the driving style in the city now, I find that it would be a good idea to relook at the stopping power. Has anyone done any brake system upgrades? I find the stock engine to be able to yield all the power needed for the city, the brakes now feel a little weak.
far as i remember talking to a guy long long long ago there is a combo of the old esteen with baleno brake pads. though i cant recollect the compatibility or the issues the guy kept talking about. maybe someone over at frk in bangalore can help. their number should be in the listing s on the forum.
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@Starter - what brand of tyres did you get with the stock gypsy ex-showroom? After some searching it looks like they they will be MRF sized F78 15. Is it correct or did you get Ceat/JK?


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+1 to starter. I think some lots of gypsies have a different brake booster setup.

My mech took one look at my setup and made this comment.

@starter: i want to look over your gypsy once. Got to see where everything goes and how everything fits in a standard Hard Top! my HT is retrofitted.
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@Starter - what brand of tyres did you get with the stock gypsy ex-showroom? After some searching it looks like they they will be MRF sized F78 15. Is it correct or did you get Ceat/JK?
@Ragul, I too, had MRF F78s. I got them replaced with BFGs right at the showroom, before the delivery

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@starter: i want to look over your gypsy once. Got to see where everything goes and how everything fits in a standard Hard Top! my HT is retrofitted.
Roy, any time! I will be in Pune starting this Saturday for a week .
We could meet up whenever you have time.
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