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Old 1st March 2011, 20:56   #31
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Catchkumar , can you post the pics of the leaf springs, head light domes inside the engine bay pics.

Slightly OT , attaching a pic of Narayan Reddy from the famed Bharath motors . This Gentleman rebuilds atleast 2 to 3 hurricanes and Go devil engines per month and is Considered the best among the JEEP collectors and offroaders .
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@Kumar hope this helps. I found some info on the net. Jeep Guru's please see and confirm if this info is relevant here. The Early (Short 81 inch wheel base) CJ-5 was manufactured from 1954 through 1971. Identifying features include: Engines: 1955-1971 – 72hp Hurricane F-head 134 cubic inch I-4 1961-1965 – 62hp Perkins 192 cubic inch diesel 1966-1971 – 160hp 225 cubic inch Dauntless V6 Fuel tank was located under the drivers seat with the fuel-fill on the side just behind the drivers door opening. This was moved to the rear of the Jeep sometime in 1970 to comply with federal regulations that fuel tanks could not be in the passenger compartment. Short hood and front fenders. The fender makes a triangle with the cowl. Snorkel cut-out on passenger side of hood before 1965 Faux battery box cover on passenger side cowl, 1955-1965 Ross steering box (mounted on the frame behind the front axle, Saginaw steering boxes are mounted on the front of the frame in front of the axle on the left hand side) Dana Model 18 transfer case (4 cylinder with dual lever through 1966(?), V6 with single lever shift). Twin sticks can be retrofitted to a single stick transfer case. Front Axle (Beginning production through Nov. of 1960 was the Dana 25, with SN 57548 – 121248 beginning the Model 27 front axle) Rear Axle Dana Model 44 two-piece rear axle until 1970 when it became one-piece flanged (desirable). A two-piece rear axle has an axle shaft and a hub that slides over the tapered outer end of the shaft and is secured with a nut. To determine which it is, if the axle is rounded on the end (dust cap) it’s a two-piece, if it’s flat it’s flanged. Three speed transmission T-90 or four speed T-98 (rare) for F-head, T-86 and later T-14, or T-18 (even rarer than the T98) used in V6 models Narrow windshield frame with fold-down latches, wipers mounted on top through ’68, on bottom from ’69 on, the hinges are two piece and come apart for easy windshield removal. The windshield is nearly 90* upright but not quite Exterior wiper motor bottom mounted from ’68 on No door hinges Tool box located under passenger seat Side-marker reflectors installed on hood in 1969 and throught mid-1970. Side markers appeared on front fenders mid-1970 onward. Intermediate AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) CJ-5 Manufactured from 1972 through 1975. Identifying features include: Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8 Fuel tank and fuel-fill located at rear. Narrow windshield frame with fold-down latches with wipers mounted on bottom. Exterior wiper motor Saginaw steering box (power steering optional) Dana Model 20 transfer case Dana Model 30 open knuckle front axle Dana 44 Centered output differential, 30 spline, flanged Three speed transmission T-14, 6 cylinder models, T-15 three speed transmission, V-8 models Four speed transmission optional Most Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire mounted on rear Levi edition trim level introduced Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983 Identifying features include: Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8 New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down knobs with wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside New floorboard and changed seating bracket design Saginaw steering box (power steering optional) Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case Dana Model 30 front axle AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it’s “WWI Round Helmet” style differential cover Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission optional Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available Note: The fuel tank was moved to the rear during the 1970 model year after AMC bought the product line. (Source: Compiled from posts from jeepforum.com. I don't claim any credits. All Credits to the respective authors of the posts)

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Old 2nd March 2011, 12:40   #33
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attaching a pic of Narayan Reddy from the famed Bharath motors .
1) I assume Bharat motors is in Hyderabad? Or am I wrong - bangy?

2) Lovely location, where is this place.


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Mods - Can we rename this thread to 'The CJ5 Thread' - no such thread exists and this is one model less spoken about in Tbhp 4x4 section.
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Yup Bharath Motors is one of the well know garage in Hyderabad. Frank's CJ was also done up there if am not mistaken.
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Here are some picture references & old Jeep brochures i have collected from different sources.
The Jeep CJ3A with headlights projected out looks very similar to my Jeep & yes its a low bonnet of course my was an open top & these were called dispatchers.
Its ver interesting to see the catching ads. of these jeeps & IMO they were really well marketed :-)

Thanks Madhu for all the dig-up & consolidation of data.
I agree with SV - Mods please change the thread name given the low source of info on these Jeeps in our forum.

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Old 2nd March 2011, 18:51   #36
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This is what i just found out on an original M38A1 & As Fazal sir has mentioned the Jeep he posted up here is for sure an original.

Apologies for my lack of knowledge & as i mentioned earlier am still learning the ropes.
One more learning - a CJ5 & a M38A1 though looks similar have a lot of differences & this is one of it.
So the glove box is in the right place :-)
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Kumar,
We all are learning, by the day.
Note the wide mouth filler cap and on the opposite side the power outlet recess.
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Hi Santosh, Jaggu is right , its bharath motors in Hyderabad. The location is Srisailam ghats when we went for one of our fishing trips.

Catch kumar , the M38A1 aka willys MD was the military version of the CJ5 and is called the Pakistani in Hyderabad since they were captured by the Indian army during the war. The M38 A1 has a 24 volts electrical system .
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Team,

As promised i received these pictures last night - The 3rd & final CJ5 in the lineup for sale & below are the details -

1972 model, black color, 307 engine, brand new tyres, 2 WD, mint condition as mentioned by the owner :-( no idea what is mint here.
Price Quoted - 3.5 L
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Hi ,see if this is for some use to you , I found this in my liabrary & taken pics ( my scanner has gone for a tour )

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Sudharshan, What the name of the book? ^^^
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Sudharshan, What the name of the book? ^^^
here it is ,

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No wonder my father disowned me

but I NOW

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Sudarshan, you are the Man! Wow what a mine of information. Thanks a lot for sharing this info.
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The LARGE odo meter shows the OIL Preassure upto 9Bar (If I read it correct) - where is the speedo gauge?
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Santosh, the 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 is nothing but the speedo , it reads 90 miles max.

The oil pressure is indicated just by the light. I have some pics of well restored cjs of my friends from Hyderabad. Will post if people are interested here.
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