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Old 26th March 2008, 17:38   #18 (permalink)
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More info puhleez guru ji
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please shed some light on this. also how much does the radeon HD3650 cost??
Ok here you go,
simple comparison,

Core Clock -
8600GT - 540MHz
HD3650 - 725MHz

Memory Clock -
8600GT - 700MHz
HD3650 - 800MHz

Interface -
8600GT - PCIe 1.0
HD3650 - PCIe 2.0 ( Doesnt matter much but supports newer interface)

Memory Bandwidth -
8600GT - 22.4 GB/s
HD3650 - 25.6 GB/s

FLOPS -
8600GT - 75.52 GFLOPS
HD3650 - 174 GFLOPS

DirectX Complaince -
8600GT - DX10
HD3650 - DX10.1 ( Future compatibility for DirectX )

Shader Model Compatibility -
8600GT - 4.0
HD3650 - 4.1

Fabrication Process -
8600GT - 80nm
HD3650 - 55nm ( Cooler)

Shader Processors -
8600GT - 32
HD3650 - 120

These are some important distinguishing points in favour of the HD3650 from AMD

I guess the card retails for ~ 4.8-5k not sure though.

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that way if intel performs better when overclocked then why doesnt everybody do so???
Any CPU when overclocked performs well. Intel performs better because of refined fabrication technology and superior architecture. Intel always had the upper hand at fabrication, that explains why Intel Chips generally overclock more in terms of pure MHz compared to AMD.

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well, for one , overclocking is quite like engine modding- you get more performance, void your warranty, there is a chance of killing your processor if you overdo it, and lastly, it depends on your motheboard. most basic motherboards dont come with the features you need for a useful overclock
Not exactly,
As long as you dont hardmod the motherboard, or cause some physical damage to the hardware,there is no way to find out whether a particular hardware was overclocked or no.This means if you try to overclock with stock setup, it does mean you dont void your warranty,there maybe exceptions though

High end boards offer excellent overclocking options to fine tune.Most of the users dont even know what half of the settings mean, for such users there are cheaper boards with much simpler options in the BIOS which help in achieving decent enough and safe overclock.

Anyways to better explain the facts, a little testing with the E2140 with a mild overclock, should be pretty much self explanatory,

Test Setup -
Intel Pentium E2140
Foxconn MARS (Intel P35 chipset)
1GB x 2 Team Xtreem PC2 6400 CL4
160GB Seagate SATA II 7200.10
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB PCIe GPU
Corsair VX450W PSU
Stock Cooler on CPU
2 x 120mm Fans in Case for ventilation.


CPU-Z Validation Link

Results -

2.6G General.jpg

Everest Memory Benchmarks -


Everest_Mem_Copy_2.6G_800_4-4-4-10.jpg
Everest_Mem_Latency_2.6G_800_4-4-4-10.jpg
Everest_Mem_Read_2.6G_800_4-4-4-10.jpg
Everest_Mem_Write_2.6G_800_4-4-4-10.jpg

Everest CPU Benchmarks -


Everest_CPU_AES_2.6G.jpg
Everest_CPU_Photoworks_2.6G.jpg
Everest_CPU_Queen_2.6G.jpg
Everest_CPU_Zlib_2.6G.jpg

Everest_FPU_Julia_2.6G.jpg
Everest_FPU_Mandel_2.6G.jpg
Everest_FPU_SinJulia_2.6G.jpg

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does the abitp35 overclock well?
If that was a question then yes i must say, it is a beautiful overclocker for the price,
Here are some scores,

3.6G_600_Everest_Mem_Copy.JPG ---------> Memory overclocked to DDR2 1200
4G_Pi_1M.JPG -----------------------------> Intel Core2Duo E6600 overclocked to 4GHz under Water
10.jpg------------------------------------> Intel C2D E6600 overclocked to 4.5GHz under DICE, meaning it did 500MHz on FSB

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