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Originally Posted by aaggoswami  I agree with you that ABS along with driver and passenger air bags are now what we need. But remember that airbags will prove very deadly if the passengers are not wearing seat belts. Equally dangerous is the scenario where the rear passengers dont wear seatbelts and the front one is wearing and the airbags come into action. Rear passengers not wearing seatbelts is probably more dangerous.
TCS would be fine, but now, ESP is the norm, and it can be introduced as an option. But the need is of ABS and not ESP. We really dont have those V6 or V8 neither do we have roads that allow high speed cornering that would require ESP. Yes for very powerful cars like V6 Accord, or Camry, its OK, but not for Verna/SX4 segment. Well if you know the limits of these machines ( City/Verna/SX4 segment ) you know they are not that great cornering machines and their dynamics are further spoiled by the Indian road tuned suspension, so you know the limits. For a good driver, he does not need ESP as he is aware in which machine he is , but every one needs ABS because many, many people dont know what road is meant for( we can find this on Street Experiences thread). |
I fully agree with you mate for your airbag concept. You are right in that part.
But not in 2nd part of introducing TCS or ESP in C-Class Segment. C-Class segment can cross 150 kmph mark easily. I think all of them in India.
Talking of Verna as i had read someone done 220 kmph mark. SX4 can cross 150 kmph mark too. V6 accord auto can do around 220 kmph mark too. So, it should be there as an optional feature in such cars.
As i said in my previous post. I know the dynamics limit of all the 3 cars i own and i drive within them.
TCS in my elantra just increased the cornering dynamics if compared to Accent and i drive within that dynamics. Same with my Accent, I use my ABS a lot on normal Roads for cornering my car on highways because i know accent's dynamics while using ABS at high speeds which i can't do at all in non ABS cars.
Its not like ABS are used in wet or sandy conditions. at 150 kmph + hard brakes and you can control your car and cornering can be done easily. (but for this you need to know your car's dynamics perfectly). That's what i do on highways (only on Jaipur-Delhi highways and delhi - GT Road to punjab) thats where i drive a lot. lol that's why my brake pads always changes after 10-15k km.
Single lane highways or Agra highway not good to try such things. We don't have to drive there according to our car's dynamics but we are limited to the roads conditions. Agra highway is good and smooth but its very much curvy and not that wide.
So, such things are just the addon to the car's dynamics. But Yes you are right on that part. There are some over confident idiots who don't know the driving dynamics and plays fearlessly taking the car beyond the limits.
These things wont harm till you know the dynamics of your car and you drive within that dynamics limitations.