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Old 11th May 2008, 18:56   #51 (permalink)
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ESP can help the lehman to avoid oversteering the car. Many of them looses control because they oversteers the car in an emergency situations. It will avoid it most of the times. No matter if you are running 100 kmph or 200 kmph.
Yes, it will help and there is no doubt. But while many of them lose control because of oversteering, is that oversteering occuring because of emergency situtaion out of our control or negligence????

NOte that even if the car is with ESP, if the corners are attacked too fast or we are driving too fast on wet surface, the ESP wont be of much help.
At very high speeds, even ESP becomes useless. For eg. attacking hair pin bend at 280 kmph, no one can help.


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Why Indian cars don't needs them? Indian Cars are tortoise or what?
Indian cars are not tortiose, but not really powerfull.
Figure out.
Largest selling car in USA:
Toyota Camry, 166 bhp with 2.4lt I-4, 268bhp with 3.5 V6.
Largest selling car in India:
Maruti Suzuki Alto, 47bhp with 0.8ltr I-3. (64bhp 1.1 avaliable initially )

Largest selling vehicle ( till now ) in USA:
Ford F-150, avaliable with V6, V8.

Honda Civic usa: 140bhp.
India: 132.

SX4 USA: 143 bhp, India : 102.

City/Fit USA: 110 bhp, India: MOst sold 77bhp other 100bhp.

So do we really need ESP, ask again.

By no means we have tortoise cars, but we are still not upto the develped markets standards in case of power of vehicles. In europe also there are powerful I-4 and V6 being used on the roads. Not on ours.

They have to cross snow, where as we have to invade into Mini Seas in rainy season where we cannot drive fast, but then we need ABS to stop.

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Yesterday i had driven Sonata with ESP but couldnt test it because it was a test car and i don't wanna do anything stupid lol on Delhi roads.
In the first place, I appreciate the discipline you have.

Are all Delhi road used ranging from 100cc motorcycle riders to car drivers as disciplined as you are??
No they are not.



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Indian cars or any other cars all over the world can loose control in the wet conditions. Where we have less visibility on the road at point of time in the rain. less visibility i.e less time to react and less time to think and limited thinking at the time of emergency. Means our car can do the trick.
I think that rather than ESP, in the above mentioned situation ABS + EBD will do most of the job. ESP will be huge help though.

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I'm again saying you are right about few idiots will try to do some stupid things if they have ESP. We have Stupid Drivers all over the world and in US too where this thing is getting popular.
Yes, everywhere the stupid drivers are there, but I think that in India they are majority and ESP will help. I have to admit this.
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