Help Needed in Upgrading my system in Baleno - Team-BHP

Nagaraj · 2nd May 2006, 11:33

Hi friends,
This is my first posting in this forum apart from my introduction.
I have recently bought a new Maruti Baleno Vxi. The car comes with a factory fitted Maruti-Kenwood CD/MP3/FM head unit and 4 speakers - 2 in front door pads and 2 in rear parcel tray. I am not at all happy with the performance of the audio system. I think the poor performance is due to the proor speaker quality and its size. I am littrelly confused in deciding what to do.

I require some sugessions form the experts like you.

1. Will the performance increase by changing the rear speakers in the rear parcel tray. If so which one - Make and type
2. Should I add a tweeter also - If yes which one - Make and type.
3. Can I retain the front door speakers or should I change that also.

I want to spend very little and get the best performance.

or do you want me to do something or add something to improve the performance. I listen to some light music and not a very hard rock ones.

I want to later upgrade and add an LCD screen also. The present Kenwood system do not have a video output. Is it better to change / upgrade the headunit or add a CD Change with video out put.
If changing a HU which one is better. Which LCD will suite Baleno - Roof mounted. How is CARBON audio systems and LCD Screens? Any one has fixed it already?

Which is the best place in Bangalore to buy this audio systems and LCD screen. Can we buy for the auto accessories person or are there specialliest in these.

Please Suggest and enlighten me.

Looking forward for your earliest response.

Regards,

K.Nagaraj

navin · 2nd May 2006, 11:39

First we need a budget. We get carried away otherwise.! :-)

Nagaraj · 2nd May 2006, 11:56

My budget for addition of speakers, etc is about 5K max and for LCD and HU with VCD/DVD campatible is not finalised but May be about 10 - 12 K.

navin · 2nd May 2006, 17:13

For 5K I'd just upgrade the front speakers.
VCD HUs are about 7K but DVD HUs are about 17K
the cheapest LCD screen I have see is about 4.5-5K.

Vivekphadnis · 2nd May 2006, 17:52

Navin, he can get compos for the front. He can upgrade the rears later if he wants to. If he is adding a sub later, the Kenwood rears can reamain. What say?

jkdas · 2nd May 2006, 17:55

Also, if he wants more bass now he can get a 6x9 for his rear.

navin · 3rd May 2006, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagaraj

My budget for addition of speakers, etc is about 5K max and for LCD and HU with VCD/DVD campatible is not finalised but May be about 10 - 12 K.

vivek, JK there is a budget!

Nagaraj · 3rd May 2006, 11:06

Thanks guys,
I would like to know is it important in upgrading the front or rear speakers first? Which one gives more effect? or else should I upgrade bothe the front and rear speakers. I can relax my budget little bit.
For rear 6" x9" ovel 4 way speakers are ok. Make JBL / SONY /PIONEER / CARBON. Which one is good?
If I have to upgrade my front speakers which one should I go in for? There is a provision for fixing the speakers in the front door pads.
I am also going to add a pair of tweeters. Which one do you suggest.

Please Help me out.

Regards,

K.Nagaraj

Nagaraj · 3rd May 2006, 11:12

Where do I buy speakers and HU in Bangalore. Any specific palce you can suggest me.

navin · 3rd May 2006, 11:14

Where do you sit. if you sit in the front upgrade the front.

I dont know Carbon speakers. I know of speakers madeof Carbon fiber but no brand called Carbon. of the brands you mentioned JBL seems the best in my humble opinion other brands youcan consider are Balupunkt ODx, Alpine Type R, and Infinity. if those dont satisfy you, Focal, Boston, Polk momo, should.

Buffetfan · 3rd May 2006, 11:16

I know purists will not like it....but to get acceptable thump, I would suggest you just add a subwoofer (maybe a 8-10 inch box with built in amp)....most of the time people do not like the system because it produces no bass at all...and when you crank up the vol in search of Bass..the o/p seems shrill

Nagaraj · 3rd May 2006, 11:27

Thanks navin,
Normally I drive the car my self. So as per you I need to upgrade my front speakers. If so the size please?

Will adding just subwoofer with the existing speakers improve the performance? can a subwoofer be added with out an amplifier? please enlighten me.

rsjaurr · 3rd May 2006, 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagaraj

Thanks navin,
Normally I drive the car my self. So as per you I need to upgrade my front speakers. If so the size please?

Will adding just subwoofer with the existing speakers improve the performance? can a subwoofer be added with out an amplifier? please enlighten me.

no,u will need an amplifier to run a subw.Cheapest amp will be sony 502/504.
If u can increase ur budget[for subw+amp],then consider this.....

1.sony VCD HU-7k
2.Front components spk-3.5k [JBL,Hertz]
3.Chinese LCD monitor-4k
4.Sony 4-ch 504 amplifier 4.5k
5.Pio 10" SVC subw-3k
6.wiring+install-2k

front spk will get power from 2 ch of amplifier abd subw from rest two [bridged].HU will power rear spk which u have.So u have to discard front spk in case u have 6"x9" rear spk.baleno should take 6.5" front spk with rings.

navin · 3rd May 2006, 12:01

Geez. Doc you seem to have foud a second vocation! that was cool! but are Hertz available at 3.5 K per pair?

rsjaurr · 3rd May 2006, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Geez. Doc you seem to have foud a second vocation! that was cool! but are Hertz available at 3.5 K per pair?

thanx navin...........i jsut cant leave this forum.

And yes cheapest Heryz compo cost around 3.5k. Gunbir told me so.He/JB can confirm it.

2nd May 2006, 11:33	#1 (permalink)
Nagaraj Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 26	Help Needed in Upgrading my system in Baleno Hi friends, This is my first posting in this forum apart from my introduction. I have recently bought a new Maruti Baleno Vxi. The car comes with a factory fitted Maruti-Kenwood CD/MP3/FM head unit and 4 speakers - 2 in front door pads and 2 in rear parcel tray. I am not at all happy with the performance of the audio system. I think the poor performance is due to the proor speaker quality and its size. I am littrelly confused in deciding what to do. I require some sugessions form the experts like you. 1. Will the performance increase by changing the rear speakers in the rear parcel tray. If so which one - Make and type 2. Should I add a tweeter also - If yes which one - Make and type. 3. Can I retain the front door speakers or should I change that also. I want to spend very little and get the best performance. or do you want me to do something or add something to improve the performance. I listen to some light music and not a very hard rock ones. I want to later upgrade and add an LCD screen also. The present Kenwood system do not have a video output. Is it better to change / upgrade the headunit or add a CD Change with video out put. If changing a HU which one is better. Which LCD will suite Baleno - Roof mounted. How is CARBON audio systems and LCD Screens? Any one has fixed it already? Which is the best place in Bangalore to buy this audio systems and LCD screen. Can we buy for the auto accessories person or are there specialliest in these. Please Suggest and enlighten me. Looking forward for your earliest response. Regards, K.Nagaraj

2nd May 2006, 17:52	#5 (permalink)
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672	Navin, he can get compos for the front. He can upgrade the rears later if he wants to. If he is adding a sub later, the Kenwood rears can reamain. What say? __________________ Thank God for DIY audio.

2nd May 2006, 17:55	#6 (permalink)
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 5,304 View My Garage	Also, if he wants more bass now he can get a 6x9 for his rear. __________________ "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

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2nd May 2006, 11:39	#2 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,851	First we need a budget. We get carried away otherwise.! :-)

2nd May 2006, 11:56	#3 (permalink)
Nagaraj Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 26	My budget for addition of speakers, etc is about 5K max and for LCD and HU with VCD/DVD campatible is not finalised but May be about 10 - 12 K.

2nd May 2006, 17:13	#4 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,851	For 5K I'd just upgrade the front speakers. VCD HUs are about 7K but DVD HUs are about 17K the cheapest LCD screen I have see is about 4.5-5K.

3rd May 2006, 11:06	#8 (permalink)
Nagaraj Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 26	Thanks guys, I would like to know is it important in upgrading the front or rear speakers first? Which one gives more effect? or else should I upgrade bothe the front and rear speakers. I can relax my budget little bit. For rear 6" x9" ovel 4 way speakers are ok. Make JBL / SONY /PIONEER / CARBON. Which one is good? If I have to upgrade my front speakers which one should I go in for? There is a provision for fixing the speakers in the front door pads. I am also going to add a pair of tweeters. Which one do you suggest. Please Help me out. Regards, K.Nagaraj

3rd May 2006, 11:12	#9 (permalink)
Nagaraj Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 26	Where do I buy speakers and HU in Bangalore. Any specific palce you can suggest me.

3rd May 2006, 11:14	#10 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,851	Where do you sit. if you sit in the front upgrade the front. I dont know Carbon speakers. I know of speakers madeof Carbon fiber but no brand called Carbon. of the brands you mentioned JBL seems the best in my humble opinion other brands youcan consider are Balupunkt ODx, Alpine Type R, and Infinity. if those dont satisfy you, Focal, Boston, Polk momo, should.

3rd May 2006, 11:16	#11 (permalink)
Buffetfan BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 559	I know purists will not like it....but to get acceptable thump, I would suggest you just add a subwoofer (maybe a 8-10 inch box with built in amp)....most of the time people do not like the system because it produces no bass at all...and when you crank up the vol in search of Bass..the o/p seems shrill

3rd May 2006, 11:27	#12 (permalink)
Nagaraj Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 26	Thanks navin, Normally I drive the car my self. So as per you I need to upgrade my front speakers. If so the size please? Will adding just subwoofer with the existing speakers improve the performance? can a subwoofer be added with out an amplifier? please enlighten me.

3rd May 2006, 12:01	#14 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,851	Geez. Doc you seem to have foud a second vocation! that was cool! but are Hertz available at 3.5 K per pair?