How to differentiate between Genuine and Fake Amp Speakers Sub etc - Team-BHP

ST7677 · 23rd August 2006, 19:34

I was going through some posts and looks like now days even high end shops are selling fake / refurbished products, while charging for genuine equivalent rates.

Considering that there is so much mess in market, how do we make sure that
T-Bhpians get genuine stuff when they want and pay for it...

Request knowledgable folks to please throw some light on how to distinguish fake from genuine

Speakers / subwoofers
Amplifiers
other ICE related stuff....

This might come handy for all ICE upgraders!

speedzak · 23rd August 2006, 20:09

This has been somewhat discussed earlier too.

As NavinJi says: asking for Bill and warranty will show it.
(and BILL means proper bill with reg. nos. etc..)

ST7677 · 24th August 2006, 00:36

I know, read that.

But also read that these swanky shops are provinding bill and warrenty. But problem comes when people try to claim that warrenty!

It always helps to know yourself few points to safeguard yourself.
Can anyone share few points?

speedzak · 24th August 2006, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

I know, read that.

But also read that these swanky shops are provinding bill and warrenty. But problem comes when people try to claim that warrenty!

It always helps to know yourself few points to safeguard yourself.
Can anyone share few points?

That's why I stressed on proper bill and not just a piece of paper with something written. Look for serial no. marked on the bill and product. They should match.

kb100 · 24th August 2006, 00:42

Very easy... ONLY buy from AUTHORISED DEALERS... never pick up from resellers..

Second always demand a VAT invoice - clearly detailing his pan-tan-shan etc

third get hte warranty card STAMPED bythe dealer and get it registered!

Then post everything including fotu of the goods on T-Bhp and you will have your answer!!

lastly dont flame me... just ignore the last line!!! lol

low_bass_makker · 24th August 2006, 01:20

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Originally Posted by kb100

Then post everything including fotu of the goods on T-Bhp and you will have your answer!!

lastly dont flame me... just ignore the last line!!! lol

this is the best way to get to know that the product is a fake or not......

and one more thing as for the model number and google it up and see if u can find it on the manufacturer website then it will be real model.....not a remake of any popular model.....

I have seen chinese remake of pioneer HU P1-Y

blueraven316 · 24th August 2006, 03:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

I was going through some posts and looks like now days even high end shops are selling fake / refurbished products, while charging for genuine equivalent rates.

Looks like you have had some bad experiences, so, Who sold the bad apple to you ? high end shop that too ?

ST7677 · 24th August 2006, 09:51

No no direct bad experiences but lately heard lot of such cases.

Besides bill and warrenty what are other points to check?

What if an authorized shop is not available around. And the product you are looking at is only available thru gray market. What precautions can one take then?

jinu_joseph · 24th August 2006, 10:23

Some tips that you could follow:
1. Always ensure that the device is box packed. Ask the installer to open the box in front of you.
2. Ensure that the serial number on the box is the same as that on the device.
3. Ensure that the importers stamp/sticker on the box is that of a approved distributor. There has to be a importer stamp/sticker on the box.

In case of JBL here are some tips provided by Sam:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...ml?#post196516 (ICEed my Optra - CHEATED by authorised dealer Elegant Car Accessories Delhi)

speedzak · 24th August 2006, 10:49

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Originally Posted by ST7677

And the product you are looking at is only available thru gray market. What precautions can one take then?

It's not easy to distinguish fakes and originals in grey market. If that could be done easily, then the grey wont stay grey for long and would've been made white somehow. Grey means a bit of risk! And fakes are also part of that risk.

jinu_joseph · 24th August 2006, 13:52

I think you can use the same rule as you would for a White product. Only thing you cant be sure of is if you are receiving a first hand peice or a second hand peice.

23rd August 2006, 19:34	#1 (permalink)
ST7677 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 683	How to differentiate between Genuine and Fake Amp Speakers Sub etc I was going through some posts and looks like now days even high end shops are selling fake / refurbished products, while charging for genuine equivalent rates. Considering that there is so much mess in market, how do we make sure that T-Bhpians get genuine stuff when they want and pay for it... Request knowledgable folks to please throw some light on how to distinguish fake from genuine Speakers / subwoofers Amplifiers other ICE related stuff.... This might come handy for all ICE upgraders!

23rd August 2006, 20:09	#2 (permalink)
speedzak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delhi. Travelling as usual! Mumbai was great. Posts: 3,907 View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (4)	This has been somewhat discussed earlier too. As NavinJi says: asking for Bill and warranty will show it. (and BILL means proper bill with reg. nos. etc..) __________________ A very big THANK YOU, Bombay! Will miss you guys! :( Last edited by speedzak : 23rd August 2006 at 20:11.

24th August 2006, 00:42	#5 (permalink)
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Phew... CBE!! Posts: 1,341	Very easy... ONLY buy from AUTHORISED DEALERS... never pick up from resellers.. Second always demand a VAT invoice - clearly detailing his pan-tan-shan etc third get hte warranty card STAMPED bythe dealer and get it registered! Then post everything including fotu of the goods on T-Bhp and you will have your answer!! lastly dont flame me... just ignore the last line!!! lol __________________ *A closed mouth gathers no Feet.* Last edited by kb100 : 24th August 2006 at 00:46.

24th August 2006, 10:23	#9 (permalink)
jinu_joseph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 146	Some tips that you could follow: 1. Always ensure that the device is box packed. Ask the installer to open the box in front of you. 2. Ensure that the serial number on the box is the same as that on the device. 3. Ensure that the importers stamp/sticker on the box is that of a approved distributor. There has to be a importer stamp/sticker on the box. In case of JBL here are some tips provided by Sam: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...ml?#post196516 (ICEed my Optra - CHEATED by authorised dealer Elegant Car Accessories Delhi) Last edited by jinu_joseph : 24th August 2006 at 10:24.

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24th August 2006, 00:36	#3 (permalink)
ST7677 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 683	I know, read that. But also read that these swanky shops are provinding bill and warrenty. But problem comes when people try to claim that warrenty! It always helps to know yourself few points to safeguard yourself. Can anyone share few points?

24th August 2006, 09:51	#8 (permalink)
ST7677 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 683	No no direct bad experiences but lately heard lot of such cases. Besides bill and warrenty what are other points to check? What if an authorized shop is not available around. And the product you are looking at is only available thru gray market. What precautions can one take then?

24th August 2006, 13:52	#11 (permalink)
jinu_joseph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 146	I think you can use the same rule as you would for a White product. Only thing you cant be sure of is if you are receiving a first hand peice or a second hand peice.