Speakers upgrade for Magnum - Page 2 - Team-BHP

Rodeo · 12th June 2007, 20:41

Tried to check sub model but could not figure out as its installed in my Palio in a box.

cooldude1988765 · 12th June 2007, 20:44

what audio equipment do you have in your palio ???

Rodeo · 12th June 2007, 20:44

Also noticed now that i will find difficult to install 6x9 speakers on rear shelf the boot rods are right under it.

Can i go for 4 comp speakers with one sub with my amp?

Rodeo · 12th June 2007, 20:50

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

what audio equipment do you have in your palio ???

I have Pioneer 7450 (i guess) with a terrible Sony 222 amp with 440watt rear pioneer speakers and 2 pioneer speaker in front.

cooldude1988765 · 12th June 2007, 20:51

no you cannot because each speaker takes one channel from your amp so thatis two channels for your front and the sub takes two channels. I am not too sure if your kenwwod Hu can run the components ...

Rockford fosgate has some nice 6 inch coaxials for your rear at 3800
an Polk Audio for 6800. These can run of your hu and you can keep your parcel shelf intact ...

cooldude1988765 · 12th June 2007, 20:55

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Originally Posted by Rodeo

I have Pioneer 7450 (i guess) with a terrible Sony 222 amp with 440watt rear pioneer speakers and 2 pioneer speaker in front.

I dont think anything would be of much use from there ...

Is your Hu a cassette player ???

cooldude1988765 · 12th June 2007, 21:04

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

The best is to get components for the front and 6x9 for rear since you are a bass lover and this might exceed your budget by about 1-2k depending on which brand you choose

JBL cs607 components should be about 6-7k
JBL 907 6x9 abot 3.5-4k

Sorry it is the JBL GTO 607 not cs607

Rodeo · 12th June 2007, 21:16

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

I dont think anything would be of much use from there ...

Is your Hu a cassette player ???

Its a MP3/WMA unit with F1 graphical display.

cooldude1988765 · 12th June 2007, 21:22

I think that could run teh components direct from the hu. not too sure though wait for the gurus.
Where do you intend to get your install done ??

Rodeo · 12th June 2007, 21:23

My cousin has a shop on minister road. Will be going there.

cooldude1988765 · 12th June 2007, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Rodeo

My cousin has a shop on minister road. Will be going there.

I guess that means a couple of thousand of the total

BUSA · 12th June 2007, 22:55

Cutting the parcel shelf for 6x9s is not a easy task and better to avoid it. You should go for 4 compos i think.

navin · 12th June 2007, 23:03

rodeo.

components would run you about 6K per pair. So for 12K you can get 2 pairs of components. for a bass head like you the ideal setup would be not only 4 speakers but also a nice monoblock (prices start at 10K) like the Pio D510 or JBL 300.1 to drive the sub well. Then the 6200 could be used to drive the 4 (front and rear speakers).

Also many a bass head (or really what I call mid-bass heads) is happier with a pair of 6x9s in the rear instead of a 6" component. SO as a guide I'll just put down a few prices for branded products.

6" components: 6K and more
6x9 coax: 4K and more
monoblock amp: 10K and more

10K can get you 6" components and 6x9 for the rear
12K can get you 2 sets of 6" components
20K can get you all 3 of the above (amp, components and coax).

vid6639 · 12th June 2007, 23:43

Hi rodeo, congrats on the new car.

Since you already have a 4 channel amp it's fine to use this.

Since your only looking at speakers currently in your budget here's my suggestion:

front: 6" components around Rs.6K e.g. JBL GTO607, hertz 165
rear: 6" coaxials around Rs.4K e.g. JBL GTO 637, hertz, blaupunkt

Connect the front components to 2 channels of the pioneer amp.

The remaining 2 channels of the amp you can connect to the subwoofer. The subwoofer should be in a ported enclosure.

The pioneer 6200 amp doesnt have that much power to drive the subwoofer so as Navin said, a monoblock amp is recommended.

If you get a good monoblock you like the D510 or the JBL 300.1 you can connect all the 4 channels of the pioneer 6200 to the front and rear speakers. The subwoofer can be connected to the monoblock amp. In which case instead of a ported enclosure for the sub, the enclosure should be a sealed one as the amp will have the power to drive the subwoofer.

Also please do not cut the rear tray and try to fit in 6X9. the optra has speaker locations in all the 4 doors which do nicely.

navin · 12th June 2007, 23:45

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Originally Posted by vid6639

Also please do not cut the rear tray and try to fit in 6X9. the optra has speaker locations in all the 4 doors which do nicely.

I ddi not know this. In this case disregard my earlier post on the 6x9s.

12th June 2007, 20:44	#17 (permalink)
cooldude1988765 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 566	what audio equipment do you have in your palio ??? __________________ I never thought it was humanly possible, but this both sucks and blows. - Bart Simpson

12th June 2007, 20:51	#20 (permalink)
cooldude1988765 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 566	no you cannot because each speaker takes one channel from your amp so thatis two channels for your front and the sub takes two channels. I am not too sure if your kenwwod Hu can run the components ... Rockford fosgate has some nice 6 inch coaxials for your rear at 3800 an Polk Audio for 6800. These can run of your hu and you can keep your parcel shelf intact ... __________________ I never thought it was humanly possible, but this both sucks and blows. - Bart Simpson

12th June 2007, 21:22	#24 (permalink)
cooldude1988765 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 566	I think that could run teh components direct from the hu. not too sure though wait for the gurus. Where do you intend to get your install done ?? __________________ I never thought it was humanly possible, but this both sucks and blows. - Bart Simpson

12th June 2007, 22:55	#27 (permalink)
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,068 View My Garage	Cutting the parcel shelf for 6x9s is not a easy task and better to avoid it. You should go for 4 compos i think. __________________ Got Bhp? Team-Bhp.com

12th June 2007, 23:03	#28 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 12,576	rodeo. components would run you about 6K per pair. So for 12K you can get 2 pairs of components. for a bass head like you the ideal setup would be not only 4 speakers but also a nice monoblock (prices start at 10K) like the Pio D510 or JBL 300.1 to drive the sub well. Then the 6200 could be used to drive the 4 (front and rear speakers). Also many a bass head (or really what I call mid-bass heads) is happier with a pair of 6x9s in the rear instead of a 6" component. SO as a guide I'll just put down a few prices for branded products. 6" components: 6K and more 6x9 coax: 4K and more monoblock amp: 10K and more 10K can get you 6" components and 6x9 for the rear 12K can get you 2 sets of 6" components 20K can get you all 3 of the above (amp, components and coax). __________________ Scixelsyd Etinu

12th June 2007, 20:41	#16 (permalink)
Rodeo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 243	Tried to check sub model but could not figure out as its installed in my Palio in a box.

12th June 2007, 20:44	#18 (permalink)
Rodeo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 243	Also noticed now that i will find difficult to install 6x9 speakers on rear shelf the boot rods are right under it. Can i go for 4 comp speakers with one sub with my amp?

12th June 2007, 21:23	#25 (permalink)
Rodeo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 243	My cousin has a shop on minister road. Will be going there.

12th June 2007, 23:43	#29 (permalink)
vid6639 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,788 View My Garage	Hi rodeo, congrats on the new car. Since you already have a 4 channel amp it's fine to use this. Since your only looking at speakers currently in your budget here's my suggestion: front: 6" components around Rs.6K e.g. JBL GTO607, hertz 165 rear: 6" coaxials around Rs.4K e.g. JBL GTO 637, hertz, blaupunkt Connect the front components to 2 channels of the pioneer amp. The remaining 2 channels of the amp you can connect to the subwoofer. The subwoofer should be in a ported enclosure. The pioneer 6200 amp doesnt have that much power to drive the subwoofer so as Navin said, a monoblock amp is recommended. If you get a good monoblock you like the D510 or the JBL 300.1 you can connect all the 4 channels of the pioneer 6200 to the front and rear speakers. The subwoofer can be connected to the monoblock amp. In which case instead of a ported enclosure for the sub, the enclosure should be a sealed one as the amp will have the power to drive the subwoofer. Also please do not cut the rear tray and try to fit in 6X9. the optra has speaker locations in all the 4 doors which do nicely. __________________ \ / ][ \|) `/ [_] "!" Last edited by vid6639 : 12th June 2007 at 23:48.

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