Queries in 'Ask the gurus' section

[kadanaJ]

1. Your Car: 2008 Hyundai Verna Sx

2. Your current setup (If any): Stock Hyundai Kenwood System with Stock Speakers

3. Your Budget: 15000-20000

4. Do you drive most of the time or is it chauffer driven? Always Self Driven

5. Your Music preferences (Genres, favorite artists, etc.): Rock, Classic Rock (The Beatles, Rolling Stones) with occasional bouts of hip hop and party rock/clubbing type music when with friends (LMFAO, David Guetta, Black Eyed Peas)

Additional Information:

6. Are you ready to sacrifice your boot space/modify door panels? : No

The only thing i need in my head unit is the ability to connect via USB to my cell phone, or aux input, whatever has better sound. Don't need fancy things like bluetooth, etc. Heck, I probably don't even need CD's.
The front left speaker has gone bust, crackles at loud volume, front set definitely has to be replaced.
Also I'm a complete noob, my first time doing an ICE change from stock

Thanks for any help guys.

[gadget.fr]

For a friend:

1. Your Car: _______Swift________

2. Your current setup (If any): _______New car with no stock music system at all_____

3. Your Budget: _____20 to 30K_________

4. Do you drive most of the time or is it chauffer driven? _____self driven_____________

5. Your Music preferences (Genres, favorite artists, etc.): _____film/bollywood music______________

Additional Information:

6. Are you ready to sacrifice your boot space/modify door panels? : _______No__________

Need USB on the HU. Need decent and better than average punch/depth, nothing beyond that.

I noted people on this forum not recommending sony hu/amp/speakers and also the recent models of Pioneer HUs.

Thanks

[navin]

gadget,

Since the boot is sacred, I would recommend a HU (7K with 2 preouts), a 4ch amp (6K), a pair of 6" coax in the front (components if minor modifications tot he door are acceptable), and a pair of 6x9 on a MDF rear tray. The Speakers should cost you about 9-12K the rest you could spend on damping (2K), wires (2K), Install, etc..

[gadget.fr]

Originally Posted by navin

gadget,

Since the boot is sacred, I would recommend a HU (7K with 2 preouts), a 4ch amp (6K), a pair of 6" coax in the front (components if minor modifications tot he door are acceptable), and a pair of 6x9 on a MDF rear tray. The Speakers should cost you about 9-12K the rest you could spend on damping (2K), wires (2K), Install, etc..

Thanks Navin. Sorry to have missed earlier, but I discouraged my friend from having an MDF rear tray since this causes a lot of rattles in my santro (swift is even more rattle-prone overall), in addition to reducing the already scarce boot space. Could you review your suggestion based on this? Also, is it possible to get decent quality sound without the amp? If possible, he'd like to limit to a good HU with USB and 4 good speakers in the doors. Do the Swift doors take 6 inch speakers? If you could recommend any particular make of HU + speakers, it would be great. If just a HU + 4 in-door speakers can't result in good quality, he will probably agree for the amp set up you suggested.

Thanks again.

[navin]

Yes the swift's doors will take 6" speakers but a 6" speaker ina door does not have the bass response of a 6x9" in a trunk/hatch.

HU: Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood, etc..
Speakers: JBL, Blaupunkt, Alpine, etc...

An amplifier will help overall response and especially bass definition and occupies very little space.

[HimuraKenshin]

My Car: Swift Vxi
Current setup: None
Budget: 20k
Self driven
genres: Rock(old school), indian classical, trance, Drums and bass

so i go to this car accessories dealer, this is what he suggests:
Pioneer 5250- rs. 6800
Focal 6" components for Rs 4800
Pioneer 6" speakers on rear door
Pioneer ovals on rear parcel tray
A pioneer SVC sub
and a 4 channel sony amp.

What o you guys say? I really dont know anything! :s
my budget is 20k not more than 25k!
thanks a lot!

[thelord]

Originally Posted by HimuraKenshin

My Car: Swift Vxi
Current setup: None
Budget: 20k
Self driven
genres: Rock(old school), indian classical, trance, Drums and bass

so i go to this car accessories dealer, this is what he suggests:
Pioneer 5250- rs. 6800
Focal 6" components for Rs 4800
Pioneer 6" speakers on rear door
Pioneer ovals on rear parcel tray
A pioneer SVC sub
and a 4 channel sony amp.

What o you guys say? I really dont know anything! :s
my budget is 20k not more than 25k!
thanks a lot!

Entry level Kenwood HUs beat Pioneer by a fair margin as far as SQ is concerned. I've always found Pioneer entry level HUs to have a sexed up bass and treble response, whereas the Kenwood HUs are more balanced.

For your music taste, I'd suggest the following config

HU - Kenwood (5k)
Front Components - Morel Maximos (6k)
Amplifier - Kenwood M845 (5k)
Sub - Blaupunkt GTw 1200 / JBL GT5 / Bull Audio (4k)
Damping - Noisekill (2k)
Wiring Kit + Install (3k)

Contact Bass&Trouble (Ajay) in Mumbai and I'm sure you'd be able to ICE the Swift the best possible way in 25k.

Cheers!

[HimuraKenshin]

thanks!
But i liked the 5250 though! its a brilliant HU!

[HimuraKenshin]

hey guys! i have one more question..
the dealer said that even though i am installing components in the front, and 6.5" coaxs on the rear door, the dealer suggested that i install pioneer 6x9s on the rear parcel tray? he said else sound will be too boomy. what do you guys suggest?

[DerAlte]

LOL The dealer has a funny logic. 6x9s produce more bass than 6.5" round speakers in the doors, and that bass is boomy and doesn't go as low as a sub. How can the round speakers in the door make the low end boomy and not the 6x9s???

Since you are putting in a sub, it is OK to have 6.5" speakers in the doors. I would avoid the Pio sub, which in itself is boomy even in a sealed box. Better get a JBL, Blaupunkt, Bull, etc. sub in a sealed box.

[HimuraKenshin]

so should i not install the 6x9s?
I didnt know pio subs were boomy. thanks for the input.
Boomy according to me is when the bass is too loud and 'flabby' am i right?
are you saying that a JBL or Bull will be more tighter and accurate?
and what do you guys say about the pioneer 5250?
plus the dealer said that he has focal components for 4800. fake right?

[thelord]

The dealer is trying to push the products where he gets max margin. Nothing bad in it, but at the end, you won't be satisfied. I'd say, head over to someone knowledgeable who understands and then recommends. Lil pricey? Yes it'll be but you'd be more than satisfied. Pioneer 5250 is a good HU, lot's of features but do try to audition the same setup with a similar priced Kenwood HU and then choose the one you like.

For classic rock and Indian classical, you need speakers that are non-fatiguing which Focal won't be. Check out Rainbow Titans, Morel Maximos, DLS C6A, Bull comps. All of them should suit your taste. Drum-n-Bass is again far complex than your average single note bass tracks, so get a sub that goes sufficiently low, say 35-40 Hz and at the same is quick and tight.

Head over to Ajay in short

[HimuraKenshin]

yes! must do that!
ajay is B&T right?

[rm_arjuna]

folks my earlier thread got deleted, need help to decide on ICE .
My Car: Scorpio SLE
Current setup: None
Budget: 20k - 25k
Self driven

Am looking at a HU with 3 preouts + usb/sd card+aux
front comp's
rear co-axial's 6X9
4 channel amp - have almost decided to go for JBL 644
looking to add sub at a later stage or if i cud fit within 25k will go ahead now .

[M00M]

For people having trouble with their system:

1. Your car: Toyota Corolla Altis

2. Your current setup (Please mention details with model numbers if possible): OEM Toyota Panasonic Double Din 6 CD Changer

3. Description of the problem: System does not start sometimes, jumbled letters, no backlighting, burning smell appeared today.


Please help what i should do ? i am going to go to toyota tomorrow to have it checked out but would appreciate expert advice.