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[navin]

Originally Posted by BHAGWAN

I just placed an adhoc budget of 100/- K
If I said any less, I would not get suggestions;
If I said any more, then I may have been laughed at - cost of car is 4.5 L & I may land up spending 2 L on the ICE

What?!!!
We at ICE consider the guy who has a 10K budget as important as the guy who has a 10L budget.

One the first installs I saw when I came to India was a 118NE with a stereo that cost 5L and this was pre-CD. The speaker wire alone cost 50K. So Bhagwan give us ICE guys some credit.

[gunbir]

My suggestions:

- Dynaudio Sys 242 + Genesis Dual Mono : Match made in heaven... dynamic, warm and detailed. Our favorite.

- Focal + Audison : Focal is fast and detailed, and Audison tames the upper midrange and tweeter. Again a nice combination, can border on aggressive at times though.

- Hertz Mille MLK2 + Audison VRx : Warmth, midrange detail, "sweet" sound.

[BHAGWAN]

Originally Posted by gunbir

My suggestions:

- Dynaudio Sys 242 + Genesis Dual Mono : Match made in heaven... dynamic, warm and detailed. Our favorite.

- Focal + Audison : Focal is fast and detailed, and Audison tames the upper midrange and tweeter. Again a nice combination, can border on aggressive at times though.

- Hertz Mille MLK2 + Audison VRx : Warmth, midrange detail, "sweet" sound.

Respected Sir,

I am thankful to you for kind suggestions.
They would be nice.

However, I would like to 'listen' to them in installed cars before I buy & try to install.

That is the 'punch line'

Demo / Audition

Where can I listen ?

I will decide what I like or what floats by boat only after I have 'sailed' in a boat.

Currently these are jus fancy names. Good Products, I am sure. But the fruit of the pudding is in the eating.

I stay in Mumbai. I am willing to travel anywhere in Mumbai at a time that you suggest to go and listen to any of the ICE Installs that you may have recommended.

How may I proceed ?

Many Thanks.

[Bass&Trouble]

Originally Posted by navin

MBQ aint what it used to be. I'd replace that with a Dyn+Steg combo.

"That Skoda" had Steg amps (3 I think) but the speakers were stealth so only Ajay (or LBM's google skills) can tell you what they were.

I would mostly agree with Navin here.

I have been a big fan of MB Quart but in recent times have been a bit disappointed. Heard several Q line based systems that didnt quite sound upto the mark. Maybe it was poorly installed, because I dont see any other reason for the quality to have deteriorated since they are still manufactured in Germany, but who knows.

There are many Steg installs in Bombay that I can organize for you to listen to, using a wide variety of speakers like Illusion Audio, Dynaudio 242s/ 240s, MB Quart Q lines, Diamond Audio etc. as I have already mentioned to you.

[BHAGWAN]

We at ICE consider the guy who has a 10K budget as important as the guy who has a 10L budget.

Navin Sir,

This is a very very nice stance & it is appreciated by me. This is what makes me proud of being a part of this forum !! Keep up the good work.

One the first installs I saw when I came to India was a 118NE with a stereo that cost 5L and this was pre-CD. The speaker wire alone cost 50K. So Bhagwan give us ICE guys some credit.

Sir, I have never been blessed with an opportunity like this. Maybe 'almighty' may provide me with a chance & I shall surely relish it. Maybe I am not ready for it; My ears are not 'tuned' to it.

[redfire]

@Bhagwan - Could you please tell what's the audio setup you are listening at home? Would really like to know the components used by a guy who is so serious about music and love high-end stuff. As you said, I hope it will help to learn some good components and their strength. Anyway please post it if you feel it is OK.

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by redfire

@Bhagwan - Could you please tell what's the audio setup you are listening at home? Would really like to know the components used by a guy who is so serious about music and love high-end stuff. As you said, I hope it will help to learn some good components and their strength. Anyway please post it if you feel it is OK.

This is going to be one long thread

[BHAGWAN]

Originally Posted by sk456

Bhagwan..1 L is not going to get you much seeign your requirements....

Sir,

I have addressed this earlier - same thread -

I shall copy it again for your kind reference :-

I just placed an adhoc budget of 100/- K
If I said any less, I would not get suggestions;
If I said any more, then I may have been laughed at - cost of car is 4.5 L & I may land up spending 2 L on the ICE

Always remember [at least that is the rule I go by]; Budget is a 'mind set'
If you like & believe in a 'philosophy' price points become circumspect.

Originally Posted by redfire

@Bhagwan - Could you please tell what's the audio setup you are listening at home? Would really like to know the components used by a guy who is so serious about music and love high-end stuff. As you said, I hope it will help to learn some good components and their strength. Anyway please post it if you feel it is OK.

Sure;

This is what I use @ Home :-

<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG><FONT color=#800000>[COLOR=#008080]LIST OF AUDIO GEAR OWNED AND USED :-[/COLOR]

[sk456]

Bhagwan..1 L is not going to get you much seeign your requirements....

[BHAGWAN]

LIST OF AUDIO GEAR OWNED AND USED :-

Simaudio Moon Eclipse CD Player [Serial Number A-211294-CD]
Simaudio P-5 Pre Amplifier [Serial Number A-081291-PRE]
Electrocompaniet EMC-1 24/192 CD Player [Serial Number 01334]
Audiomeca Mephisto II CD Transport [Serial Number 2001045]
Audiomeca Enkiantus 24/192 DAC [Serial Number 2001073]
Metronome T1A MK II Transport + UP Sampler
Metronome C1A MK III Tube 24/192 DAC
Metronome Technologie - T-1i CD Player [Serial Number 02041]
Wadia 861-B CD Player [Serial # 086 130 0343]
Mimetism 20.1 CD Player [Serial # L6-129]
Bryston BP-25 Pre Amplifier [Serial Number 251744]
Bryston 7B ST Power Amplifier [Serial Number 773775 & 773793]
Pass Labs X-1 Pre Amplifier [Serial Number 010388]
Dynaudio Confidence 5 Speakers [Serial Number 729879 & 729990]
Xavian - XN360 Speakers [Serial # 31 & 32] - Czech Republic
Tannoy - Studio Monitor - Ellipse 8 - 230V - Grey - [Serial Number 418321 & 418327]
Penaudio - Charisma Monitor [Serial Number 0352 & 0328]
Penaudio - Chara Subwoffer [Serial Number - 0341 & 0345]
'Resurrection' - Custom made - ATD woffer & Alain Bernard Ribbon - Italy
T.A.D. - Tidal Audio Diacera [Diamond + Ceramic] - Custom made - 30mm [T & P]
Diamond Tweeter + 7" Black Ceramic Woffer [T & P] - Germany
VdH The Second Balanced Interconnects 1M
VdH The First Ultimate Unbalanced Interconnects 1M
VdH The Revelation Hybrid Speaker Cable 3M
VdH The Mainstream Hybrid Power Cable 2M
XLO Electric Type 4.1B AES/EBU Digital Interconnect Cable 1M
Solitone - Hungary 1.5M Un-Balanced Interconnect [Spare - Stand By]
Solitone - Hungary 4.0M Speaker Cable - Single Wire - Banana Termination [Spare Stand By]
The Gryphon Adagio CD Player [Serial # 0401111]
The Gryphon Sonata Allagro Pre Amplifier [Serial # 8890099]
The Gryphon Antilion Stereo Signature Power Amplifier [Serial # 118]
Camelot Technology Merlin Pro CD Transport [Serial # 301209]
Camelot Technology Dragon 5.1 Plus JITTER REDUCER [Serial # 103584]
Camelot Technology Uther D/A Convertor v2 Mk5 [Serial # 501202]
The Gryphon Guideline Reference Balanced Interconnect 1M
The Gryphon PSC Reference Speaker Cable 2M
The Argento VDM Master Reference XLR Balanced Interconnect 1M & 1.5M
The Argento VDM Reference Speaker Cable 3M
Wireworld Super Eclipse 5 XLR Balanced & RCA Unbalanced Interconnect - 1M
Jorma Design JPC 2.5 Power Cable - Sweden - 2M [Power Amplifiers]
DC-Cable Taiwan Power Cables - Custom Termination [Front End Electronics - Digital]
Transparent Cable - Power Link MM - Power Cords - 03 pcs [CD Player & Pre Amplifier]
Serial Number - 45388MM & 46367MM & 46368MM.

You may google most things - you will get the details.

[redfire]

Originally Posted by BHAGWAN

Sure;

This is what I use @ Home :-

<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG><FONT color=#800000>[COLOR=#008080]LIST OF AUDIO GEAR OWNED AND USED :-[/COLOR]

Am I missing someting here? Is somebody else able to see any list or link? Hey Bhagwan , bless me with that list . I am in the process of collecting some knowledge on it.

[navin]

Originally Posted by BHAGWAN

Sir, I have never been blessed with an opportunity like this. Maybe 'almighty' may provide me with a chance & I shall surely relish it.

What I meant is that we dont ridicule 4L systems in 4L cars. Why I think our favourite mascot (the Google Meister) has a 4L system in a 5L car.

BTW I believe you may have heard the 118NE system too. I would suspect you'd know the owner. :-)

Originally Posted by BHAGWAN

You may google most things - you will get the details.

No need to.

I know you (I think I saw your speakers on sale in AV MAX too after you got the pair from Tidal/Surrontec). and you know B&T so quit the procastination at alteast take Ajay (B&T) up on his offer.

Ajay, hint: I believe Bhagwan has MBQ in his car! :-)

[redfire]

@Bhagwan - my post was held for moderation and by that time you sent the list. And you are playing with a hell lot of amazing stuff. What about LPs, tapes and tube amps? Hope you have played with them too. Hope you have settled with components for ICE by now.

[BHAGWAN]

Hi Navin !!

Ajay, hint: I believe Bhagwan has MBQ in his car! :-)

Sir,

I have Illusion Carbons Comps + 12" Carbon Subs
MB QUart - Q Line Comps
GZ - 12" Subs
Multiple sets in front & back.
Driven by Steg Amps - [7 of them] & Audiobahn Amps
Batteries are Optima - Yellow Tops - etc.

The Skoda that you spoke about - was mine -
That car is sold, have an RS now.

Basically, I do not want to install any more of the same;
The sound is good - no complaints, but I want to listen to other gear before I take the plunge.

I would be keen to listen to Morel & Hertz and the other few I mentioned above.

I install the cars on my one & take 15 + days to finish an install.

All sub enclosures are custom manufactured by be; Double Wall - Box in Box & Ceramic & Butamine Lined etc. Each box [sub enclosure] is carefully
calibrated & weighs in @ 40 kgs each for the Swift [Total = 80 kgs] & 73Kgs for the RS.

This install will not have any rear component.

Only front + subs [yes plural]
It will be a 'clamp shell' 'issobarik' loading in a rather small enclosure 1.28 cft. 2 woofers - 12" each.

[BHAGWAN]

Originally Posted by redfire

@ And you are playing with a hell lot of amazing stuff. What about LPs, tapes and tube amps? Hope you have played with them too.

No Sir.

No PL's
No Tubes

Pure Digital.

I never mentioned - Software 3.5 K CD's and counting............

Hope you have settled with components for ICE by now

No Sir; No luck like that. Have not heard anything - hence cannot decide.
Waiting for audition options. Will decide and proceed there after.