6x9 speakers and amplifier question

[rocksterraghu]

Originally Posted by zenx

dbs. Have not heard the momos. Have a CS60.4 driving the speakers and sounds pretty good. The JBLs did sound bright to me. Hertz was really good, but my installer insisted on Polk and I went along, and was not disappointed with the sound.

Why did you go by your installer's words? If you liked Hertz, you should have got them!

[Technocrat]

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[vebmetal]

Originally Posted by Technocrat

Yes a 6X9 will go lower than most of the mid bass drivers but not as low as a Sub.

Nishant, that's exactly what I was saying. I think you misunderstood me.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by vebmetal

Nishant, that's exactly what I was saying. I think you misunderstood me.

Sorry for the misunderstanding veb! I was just trying to figure out where a 6x9 would fit in the scheme of sound reproduction. When I read your post, I somehow felt you mixed up.

Anyways, I was told by a friend that in a budget install, he would prefer having a sub instead of a 6x9 (given that front speakers are compos and car is self driven most of the time). Thats where the entire confusion and choice arose between the 2 kinds of speakers!

Are there any members in Mumbai having HU (preferably Pioneer) + Electra as their only ICE setup? I would be keen to listen to it and figure out the absence of 6x9 in order to convince myself further. Please PM me so that we can meet up sometime.

[Technocrat]

Contact B&T he might be able to arrange something for you.

[zenx]

Originally Posted by rocksterraghu

Why did you go by your installer's words? If you liked Hertz, you should have got them!

2 reasons:

1. The installer comes highly recommended, and knows his stuff
2. He promised that I could use it for a week, and if I were dissatisfied with the setup, he'd rip it out and put in Hertz.

He was essentially surer of being able to handle any svc/repair issues with Polk. And probably decided I wasn't audiophile enough to tell the difference anyhow

[nishantgandhi]

I was browisng through the international website of JBL and also on FX Audio website. I came across the following models of 4 channel amplifiers. How do these stack up vis-a-vis GTO 75.4 (now phased out, I believe?) What are the prices for them?

- CS 60.4
- GT5-A604
- GTO504
- PX300.4

Blaupunkt
- GTA 4 Special Mk II (I have been quoted Rs 5600 and Rs 6300 for this)
- THA 475 PnP

[hrsraghav]

I have few queries regarding 6x9 speakers

1) 6X9 Vs Components
I suppose there is no filter in 6x9 three way speakers as we have in component speakers for spearting high and low frequencies, So is a three way 6x9 better, worse or equal to a component speaker?

2) 6x9 Vs Subwoofer
Can a single subwoofer of 10 or 12 Inches produce more base then two 6x9s?

3) (Subwoofer + coaxials) or (Subwoofer + components) or (Subwoofer + 6x9)
Which one is the complete solution for rear sound setup.
Here I have a limitation that the components or coaxials can't be more than 5 inches. I can put 5 inches speakers with a spacer at stock locations, and for 6x9 I have to cut my parcel tray.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by hrsraghav

I have few queries regarding 6x9 speakers

1) 6X9 Vs Components
I suppose there is no filter in 6x9 three way speakers as we have in component speakers for spearting high and low frequencies, So is a three way 6x9 better, worse or equal to a component speaker?

Components are definitely better than coaxials. So if your budget permits, go for components wherever you prefer the sound stage (front if you drive, rear if you are driven)

Originally Posted by hrsraghav

2) 6x9 Vs Subwoofer
Can a single subwoofer of 10 or 12 Inches produce more base then two 6x9s?

Yes definitely.

Originally Posted by hrsraghav

3) (Subwoofer + coaxials) or (Subwoofer + components) or (Subwoofer + 6x9)
Which one is the complete solution for rear sound setup.
Here I have a limitation that the components or coaxials can't be more than 5 inches. I can put 5 inches speakers with a spacer at stock locations, and for 6x9 I have to cut my parcel tray.

I would say (Subwoofer + 6x9) is the best combo for rear fill. 6x9 should ideally go on an MDF tray and not on the OE rear parcel tray.

However, if space is a constraint and you prefer stock door locations/5 inchers, then ofcourse (Subwoofer + coaxials) is your next best option.

(Subwoofer + components) would be preferred only if you are driven around and prefer sound stage at the rear

[hrsraghav]

Can any member provide the prices of these 6X9s
JBL 937
Blaupunkt THx 693
Polk Momo MMC690
GZ GZTF69T
Hertz Deici DCX690

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by hrsraghav

Can any member provide the prices of these 6X9s
JBL 937
Blaupunkt THx 693
Polk Momo MMC690
GZ GZTF69T
Hertz Deici DCX690

Mumbai prices:
JBL 937 - Rs 2800 (without B&W), Rs 4500 (With B&W)
Blaupunkt THx 693 (no idea)
Polk Momo MMC690 (Rs 4200)
GZ GZTF69T (Rs 4900)
Hertz Deici DCX690 (Rs 4000 - through Gunbir's March clearance sale)

[nishantgandhi]

This is a side-by-side comparison of 2 most popular budget 4 channel amplifiers. I am no technical expert, but from what I understand, Kenwood 8401 looks better on paper. Can someone please elaborate?

Blaupunkt GTA4

Kenwood KAC 8401

[ihkhan]

Hey guys,,,,I have Kicker 6.5'' Components in my Accent, with an OEM HU, will b changing it with pioneer 5050 or 3050,

i would like to know which 6X9 speakers to go for the back, budget is MAX 5k for the speakers,
i would like something with good sound clarity and a decent Bass,
might not go for sub woofer in future, Please gimme some suggestions on which brand & model to go for....
thanks in advance

[DerAlte]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

This is a side-by-side comparison of 2 most popular budget 4 channel amplifiers. I am no technical expert, but from what I understand, Kenwood 8401 looks better on paper. Can someone please elaborate?...

Which of the parameters made you think "better on paper"?

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Which of the parameters made you think "better on paper"?

*As I mentioned, I am no technical expert and merely seeking advise here*. I am glad someone noticed this post after a long time!

These are the specs which made me think Kenwood is better than Blaupunt at the same price point. Your inputs would be appreciated!

I.
RMS Power Output (Watts x Channels) 60 x 4
Peak Power Output (Watts x Channels) 320 x 2
Power at 2 Ohms (Watts x Channels) 90 x 4
Bridged Power (Watts x Channels) 180 x 2

RMS Power Output (Watts x Channels) 55 x 4
Peak Power Output (Watts x Channels) 110 x 4
Power at 2 Ohms (Watts x Channels) 85 x 4
Bridged Power (Watts x Channels) 170 x 2

II.
Frequency Response 20-20k Hz
THD at Rated RMS Power 0.08%
Signal to Noise Ratio 100 dB

Frequency Response 10-26k Hz
THD at Rated RMS Power 0.05% (BETTER)
Signal to Noise Ratio 90 dB

III.
High-Pass Crossover Frequency 50-200 Hz (BETTER)
Bass Boost 0/6 dB
Bass Boost Frequency 90 Hz
Speaker Level Inputs Yes (BETTER)
Preamp Outputs 1 pair (BETTER)


High-Pass Crossover Frequency 80 Hz
Bass Boost 0, 6, 12 dB (BETTER)
Bass Boost Frequency 45 Hz (BETTER)
Speaker Level Inputs No
Preamp Outputs No