Wagon R - replace blaunpunkt speakers with JBL GTO937 - Team-BHP

udit78 · 9th June 2008, 11:12

Hi People,

I am back with another query for the gurus, now being used to JBL speakers, i don't like the blaunpunkt used in my WagonR, plan to replace them with JBL GTO937.

Now my query is - i have a tray installed for now in the car, but it shakes at times and gives unwanted sounds while driving. What is the best way to install speakers at the rear of the WagonR.

Also, is it possible to put 4 speakers at the back? as i dont want to throw the blaunpunkt speakers?

As always, appreciate your support. Waiting your valuable suggestions.

Udit

greenhorn · 9th June 2008, 11:30

i dont think swapping the blau rears with JBL's would give you a very big change, especially for you sitting in the front. If i were you, I'd focus on the fronts. What DO you have in the fronts btw? if its the shaking, try to put a rubber lining on the tray where it rests. are you sure it's been fixed properly?

udit78 · 9th June 2008, 12:04

At the front, i just have normal sony speakers. Don't remember the model number though. Yes, may be rubber lining can help.

greenhorn · 9th June 2008, 12:13

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Originally Posted by udit78

At the front, i just have normal sony speakers.

There you go, there's your culprit. Sony sucks dude

But then again, i dont know if there are many ice upgrade options for a wagon R. If you are willing to do some cutting to the doors , you may be able to get some decent components installed.

udit78 · 9th June 2008, 12:20

Oh, i don't want to do any cuttings to the doors. Most i can is put speakers in box at the rear. Any other suggestions with my limitations?

bottle · 9th June 2008, 12:45

I agree with what greenhorn posted. Get better speakers for the front and change the tray in the rear to something that isnt so prone to rattling or moving around.What size speakers can Wagon R accomodate in front ?

thirst4torque · 9th June 2008, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by udit78

Now my query is - i have a tray installed for now in the car, but it shakes at times and gives unwanted sounds while driving. What is the best way to install speakers at the rear of the WagonR.

Also, is it possible to put 4 speakers at the back? as i dont want to throw the blaunpunkt speakers?

Udit

What material is the tray made of? You need to have MDF board to sort the rattling issue.
4 speakers behind is not a good idea. It will be difficult to tune and moreover if you are driving you would want a front sound stage.

Go for good speakers upfront and change the tray to MDF if its not already done.

greenhorn · 9th June 2008, 13:14

4 inchers , unfortunately. if you can afford to spend 5k, there are some very nice 4" illusion comps to be had

udit78 · 9th June 2008, 13:38

I do not know what MDF material is, what i currently have is metal one with cloth on top. Please let me know what MDF is. Oh cool, i can checkout illusion then. I will share the blaus model number with you guys, then may be you can suggest me better. I do not get bass out of blaus which i want.

udit78 · 9th June 2008, 16:11

i have another query, what are front comps, are they different than speakers?

CrAzY dRiVeR · 9th June 2008, 16:24

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Originally Posted by udit78

i have another query, what are front comps, are they different than speakers?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/produc...-coaxials.html (Speakers: Components vs Coaxials)

There you go!

nickoo · 9th June 2008, 17:04

i am just poking in!!! Just curious, is it a good idea to place speakers on MDF tray or in box??
Actually i broke my tray and iam looking for a change, so was just trying to check out the options!!
Sorry for trespassing the original thread!

thirst4torque · 9th June 2008, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickoo

i am just poking in!!! Just curious, is it a good idea to place speakers on MDF tray or in box??
Actually i broke my tray and iam looking for a change, so was just trying to check out the options!!
Sorry for trespassing the original thread!

I am no guru but what I have read on the forum is that people prefer them to be mounted on the tray. But it then depends on your requirements. I have mounted them on the tray in my car but my dad prefers them in box in his car to save space! IMHO it sounds better when mounted on the tray.

DerAlte · 9th June 2008, 18:50

Boxes, if not made well, will alter the sound produced by the ovals - especially the bass. Also, they will occupy floor area of the boot unless you figure out how to mount it higher up.

A good MDF parcel tray will free up the boot floor, and - by most experiences here - give decent acceptable sound with the IB mounting of the speakers. Being heavier than the original FRP parcel tray, they rattle substantially less.

nickoo · 9th June 2008, 19:06

@deralte and @thirst4torque: thanks for the input guys. Actually i broke my MDF tray either it was of substandard quality or the speakers are lil heavy and i dont want to go for the stupid metal frame trays and moreover swift's boot is totaly rendered useless if you put a tray, i mean you can't even put a decent sized suitcase. But then if tray sounds better than i can compromise with the boot space and in case of any dire emergency i can remove the tray since i usually run the front compos and keep the rears lil low.
Will check out box at my installer's shop.
Thanks!

9th June 2008, 11:12	#1 (permalink)
udit78 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 198	Wagon R - replace blaunpunkt speakers with JBL GTO937 Hi People, I am back with another query for the gurus, now being used to JBL speakers, i don't like the blaunpunkt used in my WagonR, plan to replace them with JBL GTO937. Now my query is - i have a tray installed for now in the car, but it shakes at times and gives unwanted sounds while driving. What is the best way to install speakers at the rear of the WagonR. Also, is it possible to put 4 speakers at the back? as i dont want to throw the blaunpunkt speakers? As always, appreciate your support. Waiting your valuable suggestions. Udit __________________ wwwdotuditsawhneydotcom 89' Maruti 800 - stolen June '06 97' Maruti Esteem Lx 04' Wagon R 06' - City VTEC

9th June 2008, 11:30	#2 (permalink)
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 1,622 View My Garage	i dont think swapping the blau rears with JBL's would give you a very big change, especially for you sitting in the front. If i were you, I'd focus on the fronts. What DO you have in the fronts btw? if its the shaking, try to put a rubber lining on the tray where it rests. are you sure it's been fixed properly? __________________ 2007 Indica DLG My next Truck will be a Safari!

9th June 2008, 12:04	#3 (permalink)
udit78 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 198	At the front, i just have normal sony speakers. Don't remember the model number though. Yes, may be rubber lining can help. __________________ wwwdotuditsawhneydotcom 89' Maruti 800 - stolen June '06 97' Maruti Esteem Lx 04' Wagon R 06' - City VTEC

9th June 2008, 12:20	#5 (permalink)
udit78 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 198	Oh, i don't want to do any cuttings to the doors. Most i can is put speakers in box at the rear. Any other suggestions with my limitations? __________________ wwwdotuditsawhneydotcom 89' Maruti 800 - stolen June '06 97' Maruti Esteem Lx 04' Wagon R 06' - City VTEC

9th June 2008, 12:45	#6 (permalink)
bottle BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 663 View My Garage	I agree with what greenhorn posted. Get better speakers for the front and change the tray in the rear to something that isnt so prone to rattling or moving around.What size speakers can Wagon R accomodate in front ? __________________ Tata Palio Sport - Station Wagon

9th June 2008, 13:14	#8 (permalink)
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 1,622 View My Garage	4 inchers , unfortunately. if you can afford to spend 5k, there are some very nice 4" illusion comps to be had __________________ 2007 Indica DLG My next Truck will be a Safari!

9th June 2008, 13:38	#9 (permalink)
udit78 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 198	I do not know what MDF material is, what i currently have is metal one with cloth on top. Please let me know what MDF is. Oh cool, i can checkout illusion then. I will share the blaus model number with you guys, then may be you can suggest me better. I do not get bass out of blaus which i want. __________________ wwwdotuditsawhneydotcom 89' Maruti 800 - stolen June '06 97' Maruti Esteem Lx 04' Wagon R 06' - City VTEC

9th June 2008, 16:11	#10 (permalink)
udit78 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 198	i have another query, what are front comps, are they different than speakers? __________________ wwwdotuditsawhneydotcom 89' Maruti 800 - stolen June '06 97' Maruti Esteem Lx 04' Wagon R 06' - City VTEC

9th June 2008, 17:04	#12 (permalink)
nickoo BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Noida\Patiala Posts: 145	i am just poking in!!! Just curious, is it a good idea to place speakers on MDF tray or in box?? Actually i broke my tray and iam looking for a change, so was just trying to check out the options!! Sorry for trespassing the original thread! __________________ Every child has many wishes. Some include a wallet, two chicks and a bike, but that's another story!!!

9th June 2008, 18:50	#14 (permalink)
DerAlte Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,915	Boxes, if not made well, will alter the sound produced by the ovals - especially the bass. Also, they will occupy floor area of the boot unless you figure out how to mount it higher up. A good MDF parcel tray will free up the boot floor, and - by most experiences here - give decent acceptable sound with the IB mounting of the speakers. Being heavier than the original FRP parcel tray, they rattle substantially less. __________________ Never believe it cannot be done - it's only that you haven't found out how!!!

9th June 2008, 19:06	#15 (permalink)
nickoo BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Noida\Patiala Posts: 145	@deralte and @thirst4torque: thanks for the input guys. Actually i broke my MDF tray either it was of substandard quality or the speakers are lil heavy and i dont want to go for the stupid metal frame trays and moreover swift's boot is totaly rendered useless if you put a tray, i mean you can't even put a decent sized suitcase. But then if tray sounds better than i can compromise with the boot space and in case of any dire emergency i can remove the tray since i usually run the front compos and keep the rears lil low. Will check out box at my installer's shop. Thanks! __________________ Every child has many wishes. Some include a wallet, two chicks and a bike, but that's another story!!!

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