Sub woofers - Are they bad for the car? - Team-BHP

neoranjit · 29th May 2005, 01:18

Hi,

I have a new Esteem and have fitted them with a couple of 10 " subwoofers along with a Sony Amp.
Some one who was looking at the subs was commenting that there is a danger of the car's other parts going loose cos of the vibration from the subs. He probably meant the other screws / etc .

Does anyone have a clue if this is actually true ?

Pardon my ignorance .. cos this is my first subs experience.

viper · 29th May 2005, 10:01

Hey There,

Please elaborate on how many woofers "couple" means. Also where have you installed them. I really don't think you have any reason to worry unless you have serious amplification and woofers to match. Even then the only vibrations you need worry about are in your "Ears".

Cheers,

Viper

sparco · 29th May 2005, 10:33

hi neoranjit
welcome to TEAM-BHP
i really dont think you will have any problems as such now but in future if you really keep the bass high your back windcreen might get a bit loose and you might have to get the windscreen rubber changed... and as viper said you need to worry about your ear vibrations...

neoranjit · 30th May 2005, 02:43

Kewl. Thanx for the replies. I just have a couple.. Just two. Going thru your replies just feels like there is no reason to worry.

nitrous · 30th May 2005, 09:19

hey neo, nice to know u've got a subwoofer setup in ur car. i'm also a ICE fanatic like u. what amp and subs are u using?? i use a pioneer 6000 amp and a 305F sub.

i dont think u'll be having any problems because of the subwoofers. where have u mounted the two woofers... on the rear tray or in an MDF box placed inside the boot??

navin · 30th May 2005, 17:11

i'd think potholes and speed breakers would do more damage than a pair of subs! yes your rear glass will vibrate a bit but i have not known a rear windshiled to come of. if your rear deck buzzes a little rubber sheet at the critical points will solve that too.

twister · 30th May 2005, 22:11

buddy neoranjit,it is true that subs do cause some body parts to losen up a bit after sumtime,but only the high end subs and amplifiers that too at high volumes.a regular 2 subs and an amp or 2 combo wont affect the car much.it is ok if you have that setup in your car.

neways,congrats for the new car n setup.

big up((v))

EVO6 · 30th May 2005, 23:20

Well I have my doubts about SW causing body damage ...
Used to have two 15inch Subwoofers 1200W RMS each in my lancer driven by a 2000W RMS digital amp ...
Didnt cause any body part to rattle...
You just have to use good damping material on body panels ..
Installation has to be pristine for SW installations else there will be whole lot of problems ...
Remember that the Amp setting has to be perfect and not to overdrive the subwoofer ... sometimes to get extra punch as termed in laymans terms you end up overdriving the woofer ... Tighter running SW have a longer life and no harm to body parts ... So if u have too much BOOM in the car then reduce the gain on the amp...

ajmat · 31st May 2005, 14:20

I got a JBL box in my boot. It gives alot of "bite" to my music. I doubt that I will ever live without one again.

dmitri · 31st May 2005, 14:37

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I got a JBL box in my boot. It gives alot of "bite" to my music. I doubt that I will ever live without one again.

Ajmat, How is the sound reaching inside the passenger area? Did you put any slits/guides in the parcel tray?
I also have a doubt whether the sound pressure inside the boot hinder the free movement of the rear speakers cone, please clarify.

ajmat · 31st May 2005, 14:39

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Originally Posted by dmitri

Ajmat, How is the sound reaching inside the passenger area? Did you put any slits/guides in the parcel tray?
I also have a doubt whether the sound pressure inside the boot hinder the free movement of the rear speakers cone, please clarify.

It resonates the car using the car strucutre

nitrous · 31st May 2005, 14:55

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How is the sound reaching inside the passenger area?

even i have that doubt, i've seen a couple of friends making holes at the centre of the rear tray to get the "BOOM" inside.

is it really necessary??

navin · 31st May 2005, 18:38

not really. low freq. sounds are not damped easily.

EVO6 · 31st May 2005, 20:53

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Originally Posted by navin

not really. low freq. sounds are not damped easily.

Low frequency sound waves travel through hard material thats why when u only hear the boom boom from a car when it is at a distant or even outside a disco when u r entering u only hear the base and rarely even hear the mids and the highs

neoranjit · 12th June 2005, 01:49

Thanx a ton on the clarification folks. I was out on vacation to the himalayas ( read Badrinath / Kedarnath ) and has no access to the internet.

The woofers are in a box placed in the boot. Also , I discoverd the trick of increasing the bass from the woofers by adjusting the gain on the amp. Now I just like the way it plays. Thank U Evo6

Nitrous, I have a sony amp / sony 10" woofers ( thanx to a gud deal on circuit city ) Got front and rear Sony speakers locally and ofcourse the Sony CDX M800

29th May 2005, 01:18	#1 (permalink)
neoranjit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 210 View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Sub woofers - Are they bad for the car? Hi, I have a new Esteem and have fitted them with a couple of 10 " subwoofers along with a Sony Amp. Some one who was looking at the subs was commenting that there is a danger of the car's other parts going loose cos of the vibration from the subs. He probably meant the other screws / etc . Does anyone have a clue if this is actually true ? Pardon my ignorance .. cos this is my first subs experience.

29th May 2005, 10:01	#2 (permalink)
viper Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Back in Mumbai Posts: 2,063 View My Garage	Hey There, Please elaborate on how many woofers "couple" means. Also where have you installed them. I really don't think you have any reason to worry unless you have serious amplification and woofers to match. Even then the only vibrations you need worry about are in your "Ears". Cheers, Viper __________________ *NO ONE DARES COME CLOSE*

29th May 2005, 10:33	#3 (permalink)
sparco BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bandra-mumbai Posts: 75	hi neoranjit welcome to TEAM-BHP i really dont think you will have any problems as such now but in future if you really keep the bass high your back windcreen might get a bit loose and you might have to get the windscreen rubber changed... and as viper said you need to worry about your ear vibrations... __________________ DoNt DrInK & dRiVe, U MiGhT SpIlL Ur DrInK!!!

30th May 2005, 09:19	#5 (permalink)
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 4,337 View My Garage	hey neo, nice to know u've got a subwoofer setup in ur car. i'm also a ICE fanatic like u. what amp and subs are u using?? i use a pioneer 6000 amp and a 305F sub. i dont think u'll be having any problems because of the subwoofers. where have u mounted the two woofers... on the rear tray or in an MDF box placed inside the boot?? __________________ Where were hamilton's.... when he had to overtake Rosberg?

30th May 2005, 22:11	#7 (permalink)
twister BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: new delhi Posts: 133	buddy neoranjit,it is true that subs do cause some body parts to losen up a bit after sumtime,but only the high end subs and amplifiers that too at high volumes.a regular 2 subs and an amp or 2 combo wont affect the car much.it is ok if you have that setup in your car. neways,congrats for the new car n setup. big up((v)) __________________ Remember kids, if you happen to find yourself upside down and on fire, you've just discovered the meaning of "too fast".

30th May 2005, 02:43	#4 (permalink)
neoranjit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 210 View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Kewl. Thanx for the replies. I just have a couple.. Just two. Going thru your replies just feels like there is no reason to worry.

30th May 2005, 17:11	#6 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 12,270	i'd think potholes and speed breakers would do more damage than a pair of subs! yes your rear glass will vibrate a bit but i have not known a rear windshiled to come of. if your rear deck buzzes a little rubber sheet at the critical points will solve that too.

30th May 2005, 23:20	#8 (permalink)
EVO6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 496	Well I have my doubts about SW causing body damage ... Used to have two 15inch Subwoofers 1200W RMS each in my lancer driven by a 2000W RMS digital amp ... Didnt cause any body part to rattle... You just have to use good damping material on body panels .. Installation has to be pristine for SW installations else there will be whole lot of problems ... Remember that the Amp setting has to be perfect and not to overdrive the subwoofer ... sometimes to get extra punch as termed in laymans terms you end up overdriving the woofer ... Tighter running SW have a longer life and no harm to body parts ... So if u have too much BOOM in the car then reduce the gain on the amp... __________________ Speed Thrillssss And Kills Every Other Car On The Road !!!!!!!!!--- EVO 6

31st May 2005, 14:20	#9 (permalink)
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,465 View My Garage	I got a JBL box in my boot. It gives alot of "bite" to my music. I doubt that I will ever live without one again.

31st May 2005, 18:38	#13 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 12,270	not really. low freq. sounds are not damped easily. Last edited by navin : 31st May 2005 at 18:40.

12th June 2005, 01:49	#15 (permalink)
neoranjit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 210 View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Thanx a ton on the clarification folks. I was out on vacation to the himalayas ( read Badrinath / Kedarnath ) and has no access to the internet. The woofers are in a box placed in the boot. Also , I discoverd the trick of increasing the bass from the woofers by adjusting the gain on the amp. Now I just like the way it plays. Thank U Evo6 Nitrous, I have a sony amp / sony 10" woofers ( thanx to a gud deal on circuit city ) Got front and rear Sony speakers locally and ofcourse the Sony CDX M800

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